I feel ya with that...I hit a pothole on some road near 264 (Mercury blvd i think) soo hard that the damn thing jumped out of gear! Didn't help that it's lowered with harder shock/spring set-up and low-pro tires...but it's fun, and driving something else for the daily would be nice on my back, too.
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I feel ya with that...I hit a pothole on some road near 264 (Mercury blvd i think) soo hard that the damn thing jumped out of gear! Didn't help that it's lowered with harder shock/spring set-up and low-pro tires...but it's fun, and driving something else for the daily would be nice on my back, too.
Where the hell do you guys get your info an MS3 sport is $22,900 and the GT is $24.465. $30,000, I dont believe it.
And Mazdaspeed2oo35, I believe you said your car can out handle a STI or EVO(rlaugh) those a $30+ rally cars and they could not hang with you, yea right. Hey, man its cool to love your car, but dont make it out to be whats it's not.
Dont get me wrong I like the MSP, but I will take a MS3 that is 330lbs heavier, but it also has 93 more hp and 110lbs more Tq than your car.(rockon)
Talk about impressive.Here is an EVO MR, I know tit has some more suspension work, but the evo9 is not that much different. Could your car do this.........
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_92uFBLhAhY
(cricket)(cricket)(cricket)
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Mazdaspeed2oo35
600whp - 600wtq at 30 PSI
Buddie, we are not talking about HP between them here, stop saying that. we already know the MS3 it's faster, bigger engine.. but is not better, and about my car, you don't even know what i have in it. and don't know me either.. read and do your homework before saying all that s***... MS3 can be faster stock my stock but will never be better than a worked MSP, ever... stop sweatig for a car you don't even have... I've been in MS3's EVo's, Sti's and SRT-4 and they aint all that s*** people thinks... the msp is a better looking car, it handles better, and brakes better, period.. don't matter if that s*** comes faster from factory, we are not talking about how fast the other is, we are talking about overall, and overall the MSP it's better, better looking appearance, RIMS, suspension, Sound System plus is a sedan against a HATCH, I really don't give a damn thing is the MS3 it's faster... that don't matter here.. and im not the only one here who thinks the same way.. have you seen PIRANA's or JOKA's, or RUSH's protege ? Now just answer one question ,would you change those Protege's for a MS3 ? Answer Honestly.....
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Mazdaspeed2oo35
600whp - 600wtq at 30 PSI
Buddie IM calm down but these person keep on saying the same s*** we all already know.. I would love to hear different facts between them.. not only that it's a 2.3 liter engine with more HP... we all know that s***... it's obvious... that's why i made these thread to find diffenreces between them,, not only HP, if you read most of the post we talk about braking, handling, suspension, interior etc.. not only focusing in the HP differences we all already know.. what do you have say about them 2. what is your point of view since you have a very nice and well done MSP, would you change your car as it is right now for a MS3 ?
Man you take your MSP with its mods or all the other people that you mentioned and go aginst any of the cars you mentioned, WRX, STI EVO, MS3
with the same amout of money and parts in them and go on a twisty road and those cars will run away.(braindead
Sorry, but I dont understand how you say the MS3 suspension is s***. It is as good if not better than any other MS vehicle. Its been proven to really compete with other cars out of its class
What kind of EVO was that? 400 hp? 0-60 in 3.5 sec?
I wish I had a camera for ya pal...the sticker price for a MS3 GT at Koons Mazda in Marlow Heights, Md. read BEFORE some options at $28,345...and this was the CHEAPEST one they had on the lot. They were selling it for $31k+ after some dealer markup crap. For that type of money I would get something else...I think the car's pretty nice...but I wouldn't pay that much for one. $22K? That's a great price, but 'round here, don't think you'll see one at that price.
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Mazdaspeed2oo35
600whp - 600wtq at 30 PSI
now i got to say that you have no idea what you are talking about.. do you know what i have in my car ? have you seen it ? have you been in it ? don't make me get nasty with you budie, cause after i'll have people talking s*** about me... you have no idea what i have.. but keep dreaming about a car you don't have.. I can guarantee you something right now, i know what i have, what is capable to do and not.. im really impress that you definately haven't seen a true Mazdaspeed in a track. and not talking about mine, there is tons in these forum that can kick that's Evo MR ass. by the way that's the English version of the MR that s*** don't even exist in here in US, and I've seen them in spain..... you know how much that car is ? do you have a Idea ? that s*** its over $ 48k for you to know... I have spend $ 22k in my car considering I paid for mine s*** when new $ 19,000 that's a total $ 41,000 and yes, the way my s*** is, will ******* RAN not walk that Evo. in every aspect... now you really got me into these . you don't even know what i have to talk that much s*** about it.. talk about something you have or seen. i talk these way cause i know how my car is done and perform..
Mazdaspeed2oo35
600whp - 600wtq at 30 PSI
thats' an Especial English Edition EVO MR, with 400hp and some other s***, but overprice that s*** if not mistaken is way over $ 48 with that amount of money you can make a rocket out of any car you want.... Evo's... why people die for them so much... they ain't all that s***....
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As always, don't think I won't delete this entire thread if debate can't stay civil.
Everyone is arguing about the POTENTIAL of both the MSP and the MS3. And guess what -- the truth of the matter is that ANY car has UNLIMITED potential. As long as you have the money to dump into it, countless improvements can be made.
Asking for opinions is only going to turn into an inevitable squabble. The facts are the facts. If you look at both cars out of the box, they're two different species -- that's why one is called a MSP, and one is called an MS3. That's why they're different cars. That's why a certain group of people buys the MSP, and why another group buys the MS3.
Buy whatever car YOU want, based on YOUR preferences. Who gives a damn what anybody else thinks? Why waste your time arguing about it? Go find something better to do with your time, other than be concerned about defending your internet-ego.
Once again, I'm sick of having to come in here and act like a referee between people bellowing at each other over a forum. Watch your language and watch your attitudes.
Everyone is arguing about the POTENTIAL of both the MSP and the MS3. And guess what -- the truth of the matter is that ANY car has UNLIMITED potential. As long as you have the money to dump into it, countless improvements can be made.
Asking for opinions is only going to turn into an inevitable squabble. The facts are the facts. If you look at both cars out of the box, they're two different species -- that's why one is called a MSP, and one is called an MS3. That's why they're different cars. That's why a certain group of people buys the MSP, and why another group buys the MS3.
Buy whatever car YOU want, based on YOUR preferences. Who gives a damn what anybody else thinks? Why waste your time arguing about it? Go find something better to do with your time, other than be concerned about defending your internet-ego.
Once again, I'm sick of having to come in here and act like a referee between people bellowing at each other over a forum. Watch your language and watch your attitudes.
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He has an excellent point, BTW. Do a little more research in the MS3 subforums. Sure, the Mazda USA site says that the baseline MS3 is supposed to retail for around $23K .. but if you honestly think that the dealerships are going to ACTUALLY sell for that much, you're living in a fantasy world. Considering these are limited cars that are a relatively hot commodity, the 'stealerships' are going to squeeze for as much money as possible.
Mazdaspeed2oo35
600whp - 600wtq at 30 PSI
Yeah, I saw one here at my Local Mazda Dealer for around $ 35k with navy sunroof, and leather interior. as a customer request.. i ask my friend that hes a Sales Rep and told me these guy paid crazy money for these car with leather, navy and sunroof. i mean that's ridiculous at max.... hey sweetie let me ask you an honest question .. Would you Change your Actual MSP for a 2008 MS3 ?
In all honesty, my perfect situation would be putting the MS3 engine into my MSP.
But seeing as I haven't won the lottery yet -- no, I wouldn't trade in my MSP for an MS3. I have a thorough dislike of hatchbacks. If I don't like the styling of a car, there's no way in hell I'm buying it -- especially not at the price of an MS3, no matter what kind of power it's putting down.
I want the complete package, per my own standards -- looks, power, and the refinery to use it. But again, that's just MY opinion.
Mazdaspeed2oo35
600whp - 600wtq at 30 PSI
I think you have one of the Sexiest MSP around. trust me sweetie, you don't need to have a MS3 engine to be fast.. put it these way. put $5,000 in the Engine and Tranny together and you'll see that there is no need to buy or own a MS3 to be Sexy, nice, unique and fast.. I have spend around $ 22k in my car and I can Guarantee you something there won't be a $ 40K valued car around to look, feel and make me feel how i feel with my baby.. even if you put that amount of money in the ms3 wont help to look better than the MSP.. People are really doubting the potential in these car, with money you can make anything happen... even A Regular Protege ES, LX its better looking than a regular 3
Mazdaspeed2oo35
600whp - 600wtq at 30 PSI
How many DSM doing 9's do you see around ? i've seen Hundreds of them.. how many 500whp Mazdaspeed Protege's have you seen or going to see ? Be Unique, think, dream and Go Big or Go home.. I didn't want to have a car everyone has... that's why i don't own an M3, EVO, STI... too many... but one thing is for sure I'll be unique and powerfull
you shouldn't assume you know the financial situation of others. For all you know he's loaded. The car driven by most millionaires in america is the ford F150 pickup truck.
Granted I think spending over 20K in mods on a protege is silly, but who am I to tell the man what to do with his money. I would advise him otherwise but in the end, he earned it, he can spend it how he wishes.
One thing I learned from working at a dealership is NEVER assume a persons networth. A lot of the time, you'll be wrong.
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