MS3....Lead Wheels???

[mazdaspeed32007]

... so all im sayin is quit your bitchin!!

no bitching pre-say. more just a conversation on the thought process of mazda. i call it more like a politicians debate. haha.

 

[tsunami]

no bitching pre-say. more just a conversation on the thought process of mazda. i call it more like a politicians debate. haha.

yeah yeah... i was mostly venting my frustration at you guys for complaining over a couple pounds in the wheels when you have almost 300hp to the ground with a few simple mods.... i mean seriously you want your cake and be able to eat it to... be happy that you spent 23-25k on a car that is making substantial power with a few simple bolt ons...

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

no dont get me wrong im def happy. i think the stock rims are awesome looking. i just wish they made them smaller and lighter. something like the evo rim....which by the way people with the speed6 are doing. anyone think this is a bad idea for any sort of reasons?

 

[BoostedSpd6]

They couldve made a rim just like the EVO's have.. my buddy aaron had one i think each rim weighed like 7lbs or something like that correct me if im wrong and thats stock from the factory..and Evo's have the best handling out there in my opinion, my ms6 comes no where close to it. one because of the weight of the car and two i drive around with concrete slabs for rims.. i gaurentee if u go with a lighter rim and tire package ull take off atleast .100 off ur 1/4 mile time.

 

[tsunami]

there is no way in hell the rims weigh 7lbs unless they are 15" or something... a 17lb 18" wheel is pretty damn light and maybe thats what you were refering to or a 15lb 17" is light as well remember also guys the lighter the wheel the easier it usually is to bend and a f'in fly can take a dump on it when its parked and you will wonder why its out of balance... seriously i have gone through the car wash twice now with a bit of vibration and come out with out any and this was in the summer i.e. no ice build up.... just some road grime.

 

[crystalmeth3]

$2200 each wheel, interested?

some of the lightest wheels on the market are the 15 inchers still weighing in at about 12 lbs. A very light 18 inch wheel weighs around 19 lbs and that wheel is likely forged and very expensive. The most advanced wheels on the market (callaway) are made of forged magnesium center sections and have carbon fiber rims, if they are in the 18 or 19 inch area, they still weigh 11 lbs or more. oh yeah and EACH wheel cost about $2200! 24 lbs is not heavy for a factory cast aluminum wheel.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

there is no way in hell the rims weigh 7lbs unless they are 15" or something... a 17lb 18" wheel is pretty damn light and maybe thats what you were refering to or a 15lb 17" is light as well remember also guys the lighter the wheel the easier it usually is to bend and a f'in fly can take a dump on it when its parked and you will wonder why its out of balance... seriously i have gone through the car wash twice now with a bit of vibration and come out with out any and this was in the summer i.e. no ice build up.... just some road grime.

i believe the evo IX bbs 17" rim is about 15 lbs a piece. so with the tire probably something like 35 lbs total or something close to it. thats pretty light.

EDIT: each evo IX original rim weights approx. 7 lbs a piece. wooooweeee

 

[TheDutchGun]

I'm telling you, if they put the same type of wheels as that evo for example, expect $2-4 thousand USD more on the sticker price. Then people would start to question whether this car is the bargain that it is.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

I'm telling you, if they put the same type of wheels as that evo for example, expect $2-4 thousand USD more on the sticker price. Then people would start to question whether this car is the bargain that it is.

i think by eliminating the stock 18 and replacing it with the lightweight 17 you would only see no more than 1000 change. remember....if its 1500 for the stock 18....and 2000 for the lightweight 17....difference of only 500 bucks. not 2-4 more on the msrp now.

thats just an example but you get my drift

 

[TheDutchGun]

i think by eliminating the stock 18 and replacing it with the lightweight 17 you would only see no more than 1000 change. remember....if its 1500 for the stock 18....and 2000 for the lightweight 17....difference of only 500 bucks. not 2-4 more on the msrp now.

thats just an example but you get my drift

I get it but thats going down a size also. I didn't mean the exact Evo wheel but going to a more expensive lighter wheel in general. You might as well buy aftermarket wheels because you'd be paying extra for the car if it had lighter wheels on it.

 

[Falconx84]

Think about it... if mazda put lightweight rims on it from the factory, we'd bitching that theres nothing we can tune

Mazda is smart enough to realize that we can't leave well-enough alone and that no matter how good their engineers make it, someone will figure out a different way to make it better -- so they err on the side of price

 

[Young Roids]

^yea I wouldn't complain about it. They gave us 18s wich is nice because the competition only has 17s. IF you really want and ultra light setup why stop at 17s the car will fit 16s go for those and really knock yourself out with lowered unsprung and rotating mass.

 

[BoostedSpd6]

there is no way in hell the rims weigh 7lbs unless they are 15" or something... a 17lb 18" wheel is pretty damn light and maybe thats what you were refering to or a 15lb 17" is light as well remember also guys the lighter the wheel the easier it usually is to bend and a f'in fly can take a dump on it when its parked and you will wonder why its out of balance... seriously i have gone through the car wash twice now with a bit of vibration and come out with out any and this was in the summer i.e. no ice build up.... just some road grime.

actually yes they are read the facts my buddy had a EVO 9 MR and when we rotated his tires we each could pick up 2 of them no problem.. they weigh in about i think 20 21 lbs fully inflated.(bicker)

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

^yea I wouldn't complain about it. They gave us 18s wich is nice because the competition only has 17s. IF you really want and ultra light setup why stop at 17s the car will fit 16s go for those and really knock yourself out with lowered unsprung and rotating mass.

thats hardly the point. im not saying go with a wheelbarrow 3 lb rim. im saying a 17 inch lightweight wouldnt raise the price of the car that much and wouldnt look bad. and im SURE it would increase performance a great deal.

it would have been nice if they decided to give us light weight rims to start off with...and not make us spend another 2000 on the sticker price and be stuck with 50lb rims. thats all im saying.

and yes, people would be unhappy about something no matter what you gave them. people with vipers complain about cabin heat. people with vettes complain about the 18th century style of the vette. but they dont complain about 50 lb. rims do they???!!! the wheels design could have been kept, they could have made a 17 inch lighter rim, fin.

 

[letholone]

why not put the EVO wheels on then...

they are 5/114. offset should be fine.

 

[mazdaspeed32007]

why not put the EVO wheels on then...

they are 5/114. offset should be fine.

yea thats what im planning on doing once i finish the exhaust. but the original question...why didnt mazda just do it. i know we'll never know exactly for sure, but speculation and debate...hey....its what we do best.

not only are they waaaaaay lighter, but look at the size also. you'd get better acceleration with a 235 instead of a 215. thatd be waaay niiiice.