MS3 ECU reflash rumor - is it true?

i emailed mazda we have done one and have not been told about any reflash so i should find out for sure if there is one or not.


****There is no reflash for the MS CAI and if your dealer says there is they are wrong**** What dealer said there was a reflash?
 
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RonTonkinMazda said:
i emailed mazda we have done one and have not been told about any reflash so i should find out for sure if there is one or not.


****There is no reflash for the MS CAI and if your dealer says there is they are wrong**** What dealer said there was a reflash?
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good lookin out man, thanks
 
RonTonkinMazda said:
yeah there is a reflash for the p2006 code not for the ms cai
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Confused now. I thought the fix for the P2006 cel was the new intake runner (hardware). Now you are saying there is a reflash of the ecu.
Please explain! Thanks! (drive)
 
flyrevs said:
Confused now. I thought the fix for the P2006 cel was the new intake runner (hardware). Now you are saying there is a reflash of the ecu.
Please explain! Thanks! (drive)
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its both a part and then a reflash almost all engine related tsb's include a reflash but what is does i have no idea.
 
As I say in the thread, the Mazda guys told me they did do a ECU reflash as it was part of the MS CAI install. So either they lied to me (and I can't see any reason why...since it really doesn't matter to me), or Mazda isn't consistent on this one. I will call and ask them.
 
camrycev6 said:
As I say in the thread, the Mazda guys told me they did do a ECU reflash as it was part of the MS CAI install. So either they lied to me (and I can't see any reason why...since it really doesn't matter to me), or Mazda isn't consistent on this one. I will call and ask them.
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please do because i am being told by mazdaspeed that there is no reflash for the CAI.
 
I just got off the phone with Mazda. I was lied too. When I asked why, it was basically because the install took longer than they thought so they needed to tell me something. The service manager apologized and offered me 10% off next time I was in and a free tank of gas.

Sorry for the confusion folks. I was just repeating what I was told by the "experts."
 
camrycev6 said:
I just got off the phone with Mazda. I was lied too. When I asked why, it was basically because the install took longer than they thought so they needed to tell me something. The service manager apologized and offered me 10% off next time I was in and a free tank of gas.

Sorry for the confusion folks. I was just repeating what I was told by the "experts."
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wow! hey its not your fault you belived your dealer and thats why i wanted to get to the bottom of it so others don't go to the dealer because they think there is a reflash they need
 
Interestingly enough, he said there was a reflash for MS3s, but it had nothing to do with the CAI. He said it was to reduce their output because of wheel spin problems. This he said, is done to new MS3s before they are sold to customers....so "we" would never see it or really know about it.
 
camrycev6 said:
Interestingly enough, he said there was a reflash for MS3s, but it had nothing to do with the CAI. He said it was to reduce their output because of wheel spin problems. This he said, is done to new MS3s before they are sold to customers....so "we" would never see it or really know about it.
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I call bulls***, just had it done 20 minutes ago, and on the receipt it says
"Update PCM for lack of power, Reprogrammed PCM"

As for the Butt dyno, not much different on top end, but boy out of teh hole is a lot better(if you know how to lunch these cars)
 
$inCitySpeed3 said:
I call bulls***, just had it done 20 minutes ago, and on the receipt it says
"Update PCM for lack of power, Reprogrammed PCM"

As for the Butt dyno, not much different on top end, but boy out of teh hole is a lot better(if you know how to lunch these cars)
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yeah i know there is no reflash a dealer does to tune down the power on these i think his dealer is clueless and just likes to spout things out.
 
camrycev6 said:
Interestingly enough, he said there was a reflash for MS3s, but it had nothing to do with the CAI. He said it was to reduce their output because of wheel spin problems. This he said, is done to new MS3s before they are sold to customers....so "we" would never see it or really know about it.
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i dont think they would do this for a couple of reasons...
1.Mazda had to buy back thousands of RX-8 when they came out due to HP level lower then adverised on the dyno...I doubt they would go through the slander and bad word of mouth through customers again.

2. Anybody that knows anything about a car knows that 263 hp FWD is going to be all over the place anyways

3. I think your dealer is getting teh program in the ECU(PCM) mixed up with a reflash... The cars stock do not allow full boost in 1st and 2nd for torque steer issues, thats why 3 and 4 feel the way they do
 
$inCitySpeed3 said:
i dont think they would do this for a couple of reasons...
1.Mazda had to buy back thousands of RX-8 when they came out due to HP level lower then adverised on the dyno...I doubt they would go through the slander and bad word of mouth through customers again.

2. Anybody that knows anything about a car knows that 263 hp FWD is going to be all over the place anyways

3. I think your dealer is getting teh program in the ECU(PCM) mixed up with a reflash... The cars stock do not allow full boost in 1st and 2nd for torque steer issues, thats why 3 and 4 feel the way they do
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Perhaps he is. Either way, it doesn't matter to me at this point....since there isn't a need for any sort of programming.
 
Anyone know if and when a Cobb AP is coming out for the MS3/MS6? Can Cobb do what Mazda cannot? I miss the Cobb AP I had in my Subaru. The car never had a single tuning issue, and you could control and finely tune the car, add boost, it had valet mode (fuel cuts off at 3k Rpms), anti theft mode, economy mode (added 1-2mpg), and tons of octane modes and various flashes that changed the way the car drove, and how the power was delivered. It was truly a wonderful tool to have. It added like 10-15whp and tq just by plugging it in, and with the press of a button, with no other mods.

Will this ever exist for the Mazda, and will they ever have this car tuned right like Subaru? I sure hope so. My Speed6 is driving me nuts with it's inconsistent power and lack of proper tuning. Hurry up Cobb. Save us. :)
 
MS6S2K said:
Anyone know if and when a Cobb AP is coming out for the MS3/MS6? Can Cobb do what Mazda cannot? I miss the Cobb AP I had in my Subaru. The car never had a single tuning issue, and you could control and finely tune the car, add boost, it had valet mode (fuel cuts off at 3k Rpms), anti theft mode, economy mode (added 1-2mpg), and tons of octane modes and various flashes that changed the way the car drove, and how the power was delivered. It was truly a wonderful tool to have. It added like 10-15whp and tq just by plugging it in, and with the press of a button, with no other mods.

Will this ever exist for the Mazda, and will they ever have this car tuned right like Subaru? I sure hope so. My Speed6 is driving me nuts with it's inconsistent power and lack of proper tuning. Hurry up Cobb. Save us. :)
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The Xede EMS does just that. Not only reprogramming the ECU, but also increasing the HP/TQ by a HUGE amount, from 225RHP to 280RHP.
 
MS6S2K said:
Anyone know if and when a Cobb AP is coming out for the MS3/MS6? Can Cobb do what Mazda cannot? I miss the Cobb AP I had in my Subaru. The car never had a single tuning issue, and you could control and finely tune the car, add boost, it had valet mode (fuel cuts off at 3k Rpms), anti theft mode, economy mode (added 1-2mpg), and tons of octane modes and various flashes that changed the way the car drove, and how the power was delivered. It was truly a wonderful tool to have. It added like 10-15whp and tq just by plugging it in, and with the press of a button, with no other mods.

Will this ever exist for the Mazda, and will they ever have this car tuned right like Subaru? I sure hope so. My Speed6 is driving me nuts with it's inconsistent power and lack of proper tuning. Hurry up Cobb. Save us. :)
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Can somebody enlighten me as to what "AP" stands for? Sounds like a very interesting piece of technology.
 
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