mpi tuner?

[wicked]

I can't find much info about the mpi tuner.
I am very interested but don't know much about it ie;cost,tunability,ease of installation,maybe even pics.

so far all I have read about it is how succesful people are with it and about what kind of maps they are using.

I would also be greatful for a link to a site with them for sale.every link I have used has been a dead end.
Thanks guys.

 

[speedhawaii]

505zoom

 

[MPNick]

I can't find much info about the mpi tuner.
I am very interested but don't know much about it ie;cost,tunability,ease of installation,maybe even pics.

so far all I have read about it is how succesful people are with it and about what kind of maps they are using.

I would also be greatful for a link to a site with them for sale.every link I have used has been a dead end.
Thanks guys.

Deans MSP made 328whp with the MPI Tuner.



Thanks again

Later........Nick

 

[1sty]

I can't find much info about the mpi tuner.
I am very interested but don't know much about it ie;cost,tunability,ease of installation,maybe even pics.

so far all I have read about it is how succesful people are with it and about what kind of maps they are using.

I would also be greatful for a link to a site with them for sale.every link I have used has been a dead end.
Thanks guys.

Cost - I thought around $1500 at most with extra injectors( I stress the thought)

Tunability - It will all but totaly control fuel through extra injectors. I am not sure if it can control the factory fueling or not
(I believe it does). Its not the most tunible in the world as it fires them all (extra injectors) at once but its been good enough for most if not all of the setups here. Controling larger injectors in the stock locations only, hasn't seemed to be pioneered yet although it may be possible. Primary fueling is controlled via MAF sensor manipulation, although I am not sure about how much timing can be added or removed or in how many cells. Spark control is said to be directly controlled. Again it might not be theoreticly the best meathod but its been shown as being not only safe but very effective on several cars

Installation - Drilling in the extra injectors, wiring them up and installing the added fuel lines and pump will be the toughest part if you decide on that route. Other then that I believe it only needs a dozen or so electrical connections. Most are found at the ECU if I am not mistaken.

PM user Micah on this site, he is kind of the representative for the product.
Sorry for the lack of a concrete answer but I have not used the product or seen any posts that were specific enough to answer your questions either.

 

[jred321]

http://www2.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39881&highlight=mpi+information
did you see this thread yet? it's kinda long though...

 

[shinzen]

Just PM MPNick- it's his baby after all...

 

[Bigg Tim]

Modern Performance Inc is where to get it, but like it was said already, PM MPNick, he is the man who does the deed with it. The unit it awesome, you WILL make more power with it.

 

[1sty]

can anyone answer his questions?
cost?
tunability?
ease of installation?


Was I totaly correct in my statements?

 

[shinzen]

I think nick is selling it for $800, I could be wrong- there are tons of maps to download and then tweak from there, and the wiring should be easier than a basic keyless system(I would hope so anyway!) BTW talking from no actual experience, just what I have picked up from various threads..

 

[MPNick]

can anyone answer his questions?
cost?
tunability?
ease of installation?


Was I totaly correct in my statements?

Lets just say you were mostly wrong in all of your statement.

The cost for the MPI Tuner is $795.00. If you need to run extra injectors add $295.00 for one or $345.00 for the duel set up. We do control the stock injectors. For now we have seen someone make up to 232who with stock injectors and our MPI Tuner. The extra injectors are fired in batch, not the stock injectors. They are fired just like the stock Mazda/Ford computer fires them. We just control how much fuel they add or remove and when.

We have full control of the coils. They are fire by the MPI Tuner. We have complete control of the timing, including boost retard.

I think at this point in time more people are runing the MPI tuner on this forum then any other system. I also know the the best running dyno tested cars all have the MPI tuner on them. So more people feel that the MPI tuner is the way to go full complete control of your Protege spark and fuel. I have yet to see anyone post a dyno sheet that shows more power or better power then what the MPI tuner has done.

Thanks again

Later..........Nick

 

[ARunto]

i really like what the MPI tuner offers but i want to be able to use my 460cc injectors....will it control it and idle?

 

[MPNick]

i really like what the MPI tuner offers but i want to be able to use my 460cc injectors....will it control it and idle?

It will control them. The problem is I have yet to see a big injector setup run 100% at idle. Plus you will not pass and inspection testing any longer. Also what type of injector are they. You should be looking at new type injectors. Most older type injectors are junk.

Thanks again


Later....Nick

 

[JONBOY688]

how hard is the extra injector setup to install? as in fuel plumbing for lines and so forth?

 

[ARunto]

It will control them. The problem is I have yet to see a big injector setup run 100% at idle. Plus you will not pass and inspection testing any longer. Also what type of injector are they. You should be looking at new type injectors. Most older type injectors are junk.

Thanks again


Later....Nick

They are 460cc S5 injectors from a 89-91 RX-7. I'm not worried about passing inspection as they don't have smog test where I live.

-Alan

 

[jred321]

It will control them. The problem is I have yet to see a big injector setup run 100% at idle. Plus you will not pass and inspection testing any longer. Also what type of injector are they. You should be looking at new type injectors. Most older type injectors are junk.

Thanks again


Later....Nick

why wouldn't he be able to pass inspection?

 

[Bigg Tim]

how hard is the extra injector setup to install? as in fuel plumbing for lines and so forth?

You just get them welded on your throttle body pipe and hook the fuel line into it and it comes out the other side to the stock rail.

 

[1sty]

Lets just say you were mostly wrong in all of your statement.

The cost for the MPI Tuner is $795.00. If you need to run extra injectors add $295.00 for one or $345.00 for the duel set up. We do control the stock injectors. For now we have seen someone make up to 232who with stock injectors and our MPI Tuner. The extra injectors are fired in batch, not the stock injectors. They are fired just like the stock Mazda/Ford computer fires them. We just control how much fuel they add or remove and when.

We have full control of the coils. They are fire by the MPI Tuner. We have complete control of the timing, including boost retard.

I think at this point in time more people are runing the MPI tuner on this forum then any other system. I also know the the best running dyno tested cars all have the MPI tuner on them. So more people feel that the MPI tuner is the way to go full complete control of your Protege spark and fuel. I have yet to see anyone post a dyno sheet that shows more power or better power then what the MPI tuner has done.

Thanks again

Later..........Nick

Good to know.

I was still under the impression that primary fuel control was formextra ijnectors, hence the $1000 estimation. Good to know that they aren't needed in alot of setups now. I guess I mis stated the batch firing, I ment that the extra injectors were batched, not the stock.

What is the interface with the spark plugs?
Is that run through the MAF sensor or is there a direct wire integration?

 

[MPNick]

Good to know.

I was still under the impression that primary fuel control was formextra ijnectors, hence the $1000 estimation. Good to know that they aren't needed in alot of setups now. I guess I mis stated the batch firing, I ment that the extra injectors were batched, not the stock.

What is the interface with the spark plugs?
Is that run through the MAF sensor or is there a direct wire integration?

We use the MAF to mainly tune the fuel. We read the MAF for spark retard. We fire the coils right off of the MPI Tuner.

Thanks agian


Later...........Nick

 

[1sty]

We use the MAF to mainly tune the fuel. We read the MAF for spark retard. We fire the coils right off of the MPI Tuner.

Thanks agian


Later...........Nick

How many wires overall have to be cut or spliced?
Do any have to be run into or from the engine bay?
Are most wires found at the PCM?

 

[70]

It will control them. The problem is I have yet to see a big injector setup run 100% at idle. Plus you will not pass and inspection testing any longer. Also what type of injector are they. You should be looking at new type injectors. Most older type injectors are junk.

Thanks again


Later....Nick

Have you tested this on the Protege? How do you know for sure?