More Pics of Prototype MSP Intercooler

[Brian MP5T]

well, that's not our (t25) turbo, but ours is almost as small

that T3/T4 is almost as big as my head:

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That is not a T3/T4. That thing could ingest a T3/T4. It's a Gerrett T-78 for a Toyota Supra. It's a T6

However, that is a really nice Turbo. Is it yours and are you planning to put it in a Protege?

 

[Dr.Sound]

oh, haha
i thought it was a t3/4, sorry.......that thing is HUGE!

 

[Brian MP5T]

T-6

oh, haha
i thought it was a t3/4, sorry.......that thing is HUGE!

That thing is a monster man. You would need alot of exaust to spool that turbine quickly.

Later...Brian

 

[SaaBaaDoo]

I like the new prototype intercooler a LOT! looks better, but performance wise?

My question is...Intercoolers in general are expensive...especially FMICs. Wouldn't it be cheaper and give more power if a CO2 Ntercooler kit was installed vs. whole new intercooler????

 

[KyRaceFan]

Cheapest FMIC kit- Buy a core with endtanks premade for 200-400, fab alum pipes 250-300. Labor 200. FMIC for 650-800.
Theres a guy here who just got a 22x10 spearco core, with custom pipes and labor for about 700.

But im still interested in the replacement for the stock position.
If it flows better and is more efficient, i'll definately get one. I just had hard pipes made, so if they will still fit, then im all for it.

 

[CarlM2]

I agree with Ky... I'm looking forward to the release of this IC.. but, will it really happen?

If you are going to release something, release it. Why not just bring this to market when it's complete? It shoots the credibility of this project in the foot when it's clearly installed but...... there's no plan for production.... except I'm told to 'be patient'... when is that? a year from now, more, less?

I should take a break from this board and come back in 6 months and then maybe this IC, Corksport will have some stuff, Ion will have a site, and everything will be rolling...



Make a date and stick to it or it's vapor-ware....

 

[SpicyMSP]

simma down now. This wasnt even posted as for sale. It was just some pictures Dr.Sound of it in production on a car. Make a note this was not posted by the vendor. He didnt post theese pictures even SAYING it will be released as a product. and people jumped on it. Dont get me wrong , it will be, but we promised nothing. The IC is beeing handed off to mazda to check out... as of this sunday.. .and after the body braces are out and ready in Jan then we can concentrate on the IC.

 

[SpicyMchaggis]

*stuffs head inside turbo and makes woosh sound

 

[SpicyMSP]

anyway what I am trying to say is the person who posted this is not affiliated with Protosport and its Production dates. Again, he just posted the pictures not promising anything.

 

[CarlM2]

OK cool. Sorry for the rant. I don't know who's who around here and figured people posting new products are directly related to the manufacturer.

So, glad to hear it's moving. I am a bit frustrated with trying to find products that actually exist for the MSP. There's so much speculation and gossip on this forum I don't know who's for real.

My apologies for taking this frustration out on you, Spicy.

-C

 

[Dr.Sound]

yeah, my bad
i didnt think it would escelate to something like this, i though people would like to see pics of what's coming....

 

[SpicyMSP]

no worries. Frantically trying to get more (2nd batch) of downpipes out, and getting the body braces squared away. One thing at a time. Just check our website for updates, and I will post everything I know on here.

 

[CarlM2]

yeah, my bad
i didnt think it would escelate to something like this, i though people would like to see pics of what's coming....

I think it's great that someone's working on this solution. The reason it escalated is because a lot of people know (or think they know) that replacing the IC is getting rid of a known bottleneck for our turbo system... both figuratively and literally.

So, it's great to see this but, it's worse knowing that it's out there and won't be available for a long time. Maybe others like to drool over stuff a long time but, I just like to buy it when it's ready (and has some dyno results or flow testing, or other credible testing results).... which I'm willing to wait for.

 

[yashooa]

I think it's great that someone's working on this solution. The reason it escalated is because a lot of people know (or think they know) that replacing the IC is getting rid of a known bottleneck for our turbo system... both figuratively and literally.

So, it's great to see this but, it's worse knowing that it's out there and won't be available for a long time. Maybe others like to drool over stuff a long time but, I just like to buy it when it's ready (and has some dyno results or flow testing, or other credible testing results).... which I'm willing to wait for.

I just think it's pretty (k) (k)
It will go well with my 18'' true spoke wheels and white walls.
(laugh) (moon) (laugh)

 

[SirJaime]

{spin spin spin} What the hell are you talking about Body Braces ! ? ? ? ? ?


WE WANT THE DAMN IC ! ! ! WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO (YOU TEASE)? Chain you to the wipping post "an beat you down"?

 

[Brian MP5T]

COOLER AIR IS GOOD!!!

I like the new prototype intercooler a LOT! looks better, but performance wise?

My question is...Intercoolers in general are expensive...especially FMICs. Wouldn't it be cheaper and give more power if a CO2 Ntercooler kit was installed vs. whole new intercooler????

An intercooler does not make more power. It reduces the intake charge temperature. It helps reliability issues in a stock configuration. A turbo makes pressure quickly. When it does that it normally heats the air up a bit. The more you ask of a Turbo the more heat it makes. Little turbos are good at making up to 10 PSI, big turbos make more pressure with less heat. If you are running stock boost pressure you should not need to upgrade your intercooler...really. A Garrett T-25 at 10 + PSI can make plus of 200 Deg Celcius. This air at that temp and boost being pushed into a hot engine under load increases the risk of detonation. It also helps by making the air denser, more air in a given volume of air = more air to burn the fuel!!!

I hope this helps. I kept it really simple. There are other things to consider too. But CO2 might not be the Bang for Buck that you are looking for.

Later...Brian

 

[MazdaDryvr]

what does a downpipe do?

 

[SirJaime]

There are no new pic's or news , Y does this have a date of 12/18?

 

[MazdaDryvr]

well, thats todays date.

 

[Brian MP5T]

what does a downpipe do?

I'm going to go off the idea that you aren't trying to be funny and answer your question.

The down pipe is the first exaust pipe after the turbine housing. it is responsible for taking the very hot exaust gasses to the cat if you have one installed. The idea of getting a larger diameter downpipe is that if you have less resistance on that side of the turbine, you will have a greater diferential between the two sides of the exaust turbine and you should be able to spool up to max boost faster.

Later...Brian