Just installed AWR 19mm rear sway bar

[seb_protege]

Helllo,

i woudlike know about the stiffness on the rear with this sway bar

it is realy more stiff thant stock?

How it feel went you run over bumpy road?

I woudlike if it is a confortable ride or it is hard ride?

Thank

seb

 

[NVP5White]

Helllo,
i woudlike know about the stiffness on the rear with this sway bar
it is realy more stiff thant stock?
How it feel went you run over bumpy road?
I woudlike if it is a confortable ride or it is hard ride?
Thank
seb

The "feel" of the bar will be "stock" when going over bumps you hit with both rear wheels at the same time such as a speed bump. That's becasue the sway bar is not used in this instance. If you hit a pot hole or enter a driveway apron (where it meets the street) then the motion of the car will be more controled and probably seem rougher.

BTW, I have nearly purchased the bar on several occassions and I just don't think I'll be able to hold out much longer. My only conserns surround the tabs on my stock struts. I'll mitigate the risk of breakage by not autocrossing (sad2) and not driving like a maniac into driveways.

 

[RaiderMS3]

ok, that makes sense. but can you still install the bars on the stock endlinks?

also ********** sells both the 19 and the 21.5 with the adjustable endlinks, and they are the same price, $230. so what are the differences between the the two sizes of bars? why would someone choose the 19 over the 21.5 if they are the same price?

http://www.**********.com/AWR_s/630.htm?Click=125

Just saw this. The 21.5 mm is stiffer than the 19mm. $230 is before the GB discount, as well.

 

[65racecoupe]

Just saw this. The 21.5 mm is stiffer than the 19mm. $230 is before the GB discount, as well.

When we are talking about stifness of a metal, like the bars, the stifness goes up very much compared to the size difference.

There is a formula, but the 21.5mm is WAY more than 7% stiffer, even though it is only 7% bigger (roughly).

Does that make any sense?

 

[Robot Romeo]

thanks, for the reply. i forgot about the discount. its $202! i'm getting pumped now.

but i just need to know, do i need the adjustable endlinks, or with the stock ones be ok for a daily driver?

 

[RaiderMS3]

agreed. The 21.5mm will still have stiffer handling, I guess is the point.

 

[toucci]

Helllo,

i woudlike know about the stiffness on the rear with this sway bar

it is realy more stiff thant stock?

How it feel went you run over bumpy road?

I woudlike if it is a confortable ride or it is hard ride?

Thank

seb

The suspension is a lot less compliant with my 21.5mm bar set moderately tight, which means it will tripod when entering driveways and when pulling out into the street one of the front wheels will go airborne sometimes causing the diff to unload and the revs to shoot up. It handles great and these instances are rare, though.

 

[RaiderMS3]

thanks, for the reply. i forgot about the discount. its $202! i'm getting pumped now.

but i just need to know, do i need the adjustable endlinks, or with the stock ones be ok for a daily driver?

It is up to you. The stock ones are not really designed for that big of a bar. I verified with Cullen, and he would not recommend it.

 

[65racecoupe]

thanks, for the reply. i forgot about the discount. its $202! i'm getting pumped now.

but i just need to know, do i need the adjustable endlinks, or with the stock ones be ok for a daily driver?

21.5mm bar for $202?

If so, it comes WITH the rear adjustable endlinks already.

 

[Pretzellogic]

Welcome to the clunk bretheren.

 

[anarchistchiken]

Yes, you need adjustable endlinks. The stock ones will break enevtually.

 

[65racecoupe]

$70 bucks is better than a broken stock endlink, wether you have the 19mm or the 21.5 mm.

How is it feeling, chiken? You like?

 

[anarchistchiken]

Yeah still lovin it. I didn't tighten one of the sliders all the way so one end has almost slipper out, so I need to fix that tommorow. But other than that it's great.

 

[RaiderMS3]

I would personally feel better if I bought something I would need to be worried about something breaking because I put it on. Actually, my wife would kick my ass if we got stranded because of something lik that! lol.

 

[i12drivemyMP5]

The suspension is a lot less compliant with my 21.5mm bar set moderately tight, which means it will tripod when entering driveways and when pulling out into the street one of the front wheels will go airborne sometimes causing the diff to unload and the revs to shoot up. It handles great and these instances are rare, though.

Me likey the occasional 3 wheel motion without hydraulics entering or leaving a sloped entrance/exit. The back one is better than the front one. I've been wondering when it happens if the back tire is actually off the ground. It feels like it is. The front just makes one tire spin if you aren't paying attention but with car lowered I'm usually trying to minimize it.

 

[Stealth5]

21.5mm bar for $202?

If so, it comes WITH the rear adjustable endlinks already.

damn, when i bought it was like $180 shipped with adj. endlinks. (21.5)

as for the stiffness questions, it doesnt really affect the ride quality all that much. only when going over slopes diagonally (like up a driveway or over speedbumps) it kinda throws you left to right a little more, but its not really uncomfortable by any means.

if you set those endlinks all the way stiff youll be a dorifto machine. these bars pretty much kill understeer and you can adjust how much or little you want. going to a tight autocross? tighten that baby up and pivot around those corners like a pro. going canyon carving? put it in the middle for mid speed corners or for long high speed sweepers soften it up a bit. its that easy

----> if you have stock struts, be wary of the 21.5mm bar. it seems like of you set it all they way on the stiffest setting, you risk breaking those little tabs on the struts where the endlinks connect<-----

edit: heres some pics of the endlink assemblies AWR sent me a long time ago that really helped with the installation. the drawings on the instructions were kinda hard to follow
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1326852#post1326852

my only complaint is that the little rubber grommet/washer thingies rotted away on my bar after about 8 months or so, but i replaced them with polyurethane ones, im not sure if it comes with them now, but definitely consider getting some before the install

 

[RaiderMS3]

yeah, AWR raised their rates on everything last year.

 

[awsmp5]

damn so i shoulda gotten 19 mm? i was initially gonna get it buy my friend insisted that thicker = stiffer = better so i went with the 21.5.
he put a huge one on his wrx

 

[anarchistchiken]

Thicker does = stiffer. The 21.5 is stiffer than the 19.

 

[Stealth5]

Thicker does = stiffer. The 21.5 is stiffer than the 19.

think of your car like a woman....she probably wants the thickest, stiffest one you can buy