jdm FS 2.0L engine (168 HP)

[nate0123]

<div class="bbWrapper"><b>Standalone!! </b><br /> Under Mazda Forums &gt; All Mazda Tech &gt; Engine management &amp; Tuning</div>

 

[ajkulish]

<div class="bbWrapper">so over 1000$?</div>

 

[Wagonbacker9]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 73167" data-quote="ajkulish" data-source="post: 5255617" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=5255617" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-5255617">ajkulish said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> so over 1000$? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> enough that a turbo kit to make equal power on a piggyback would be cheaper. yes.</div>

 

[ajkulish]

<div class="bbWrapper">well how much horsepower would a piggyback give me when i had all the stuff as compared to having all of the engine and no piggyback</div>

 

[Wagonbacker9]

<div class="bbWrapper">NA? probably just slightly more than the MP3 ECU. MP3 tune is pretty good all things considered.</div>

 

[ajkulish]

<div class="bbWrapper">and i have that so things should be okay with high comp pistons and cams?</div>

 

[Wagonbacker9]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 73167" data-quote="ajkulish" data-source="post: 5255693" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=5255693" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-5255693">ajkulish said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> and i have that so things should be okay with high comp pistons and cams? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>OK, yes, but fulfill your &quot;more power than a turbo setup for the same money&quot; claim... likely not.</div>

 

[ajkulish]

<div class="bbWrapper">when did i make that claim?</div>

 

[Wagonbacker9]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 73167" data-quote="ajkulish" data-source="post: 5255710" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=5255710" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-5255710">ajkulish said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> when did i make that claim? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> looks like I got the quote wrong, but same idea.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 73167" data-quote="ajkulish" data-source="post: 5253773" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=5253773" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-5253773">ajkulish said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> yeah yeah. but the truth is i should be pushing about the same power as a stock msp at the brake for about half the cost... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote></div>

 

[ajkulish]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 73167" data-quote="ajkulish" data-source="post: 5253773" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=5253773" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-5253773">ajkulish said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> yeah yeah. but the truth is i should be pushing about the same power as a stock msp at the brake for about half the cost... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> the jdm familia had the same hp as a usdm msp at the brake</div>

 

[Wagonbacker9]

<div class="bbWrapper">ok... we&#039;re going around in circles now. you need the FSZE ecu and harness to experience that kind of gain. pistons and cams won&#039;t get you there.</div>

 

[ajkulish]

<div class="bbWrapper">okay well then i will work at getting that. i might get mazda to do it again. that would be cool...</div>

 

[neilv]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 53363" data-quote="Wagonbacker9" data-source="post: 5255732" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=5255732" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-5255732">Wagonbacker9 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> ok... we&#039;re going around in circles now. you need the FSZE ecu and harness to experience that kind of gain. pistons and cams won&#039;t get you there. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> the FSZE ecu is near impossible to get as well as the harness correct?<br /> <br /> ^^imo you are better off with the cams and low compression pistons for power. all motor to get to msp power will end up costing you as much as you payed for the car or atleast most of the way.</div>

 

[Wagonbacker9]

<div class="bbWrapper">I&#039;m outside my realm of knowledge, but I believe the sensors are different, I know the intake is different.. so I don&#039;t think its that simple. I&#039;m almost certain you can&#039;t just get it flashed. This is why if you want to do it, you are basically talking about importing a front clip from japan. (AKA, not cheap)<br /> <br /> so, either buy focus&#039;s, spend a s*** ton, or let the idea go I think is the bottom line.</div>

 

[AusOrion]

<div class="bbWrapper">If you just want some extra poke out of the engine, you are better of getting an MP3 ECU or flash and the JDM cams.<br /> <br /> If you are going to do an NA then start searching around and selecting your parts. It will take a fair bit of work and decent $$$ to get the same power as an MSP. You <u>will</u> need a standalone unless you get a full FS-ZE engine as I highly doubt that the stock ECU will cope with the mods you will need to match an MSP for power.</div>

 

[Paskal1991]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 53363" data-quote="Wagonbacker9" data-source="post: 5255949" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=5255949" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-5255949">Wagonbacker9 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;m outside my realm of knowledge, but I believe the sensors are different, I know the intake is different.. so I don&#039;t think its that simple. I&#039;m almost certain you can&#039;t just get it flashed. This is why if you want to do it, you are basically talking about importing a front clip from japan. (AKA, not cheap)<br /> <br /> so, either buy focus&#039;s, spend a s*** ton, or let the idea go I think is the bottom line. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> FSZE is OBD1, so you cant run a FSDE with jspec ECU without major mods! And for focus&#039;s fsze, it&#039;s almost mine^^ I paid I&#039;m part of it already!</div>

 

[80884M]

<div class="bbWrapper">Has anyone actually done this swap? I have a 02 Pro5 and just dropped a jdm engine into it. I swapped out most sensors. . . Trigger, throttle body sensors being the only real difference. All done but when i go to start it won&#039;t fire. The pump works but im not getting any spark or fuel. I plugged a CEL scanner and no probs but i did it again and the scanner gave me a &quot;no link&quot; display. Does any one know the solution to my prob? Do i really need the jdm ecu to fire up the engine? If so anyone selling there&#039;s or know how to get my hands on one? Please help</div>

 

[ucMP3]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 89942" data-quote="80884M" data-source="post: 5332728" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=5332728" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-5332728">80884M said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Has anyone actually done this swap? I have a 02 Pro5 and just dropped a jdm engine into it. I swapped out most sensors. . . Trigger, throttle body sensors being the only real difference. All done but when i go to start it won&#039;t fire. The pump works but im not getting any spark or fuel. I plugged a CEL scanner and no probs but i did it again and the scanner gave me a &quot;no link&quot; display. Does any one know the solution to my prob? Do i really need the jdm ecu to fire up the engine? If so anyone selling there&#039;s or know how to get my hands on one? Please help </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> It&#039;s OBD1, not OBD2. You have to redo the wiring pins yourself and re wire the harness. Look up a guy on here, his name is &quot;Focus&quot;. He has done this swap, &amp; DD&#039;s it.</div>