I want to do a turbo build, any ideas???? PLz

[MonzdaCon]

Hey whats up, i have been a member for a while since i got my MP3 about a year and a half ago. I am finnaly ready to start my mods and build it up with a turbo. I dont really know that much about (uhm) it but i am ready to go turbo. do you guys have any ideas or recommendations for me. I havent done much to it yet, just a cold air, tinted, and a system (which is not really a mod).

I was thinking of buy a turbo kit, but i spoke to some friends and they said i should buy a good turbo, get some custom welding down for the pipes and buy the rest of the parts. io think this will be much cheaper than the kit. really appreciate your input, thanks.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

..do you have money?

if you want ideas. i have a full turbo kit for sale. all you'll need is a boost controller, some couplers, and a tapped oil pan.some kind of engine management. ready to go.

you can safely run like 5psi with this kit, with stock internals.
but you need to have the money!

 

[Wagonbacker9]

haha I was going to mention your kit boosted.... you beat me to it.

I'd recommend trying to pick up a stock MSP kit. you'll need the rad, SMIC, boost tubes, some sort of oil plumbing solution, turbo, manifold, Downpipe (Both S and J sections) and an intake (neither your stocker or the CAI will work) though you may be able to retrofit part of the CAI dependin on how its put together.

if you want to spend some extra money and simplify a couple things,you could stick with your factory radiator setup and go strait to a front mount intercooler setup. this will have performance benefits all its own on top of the factory MSP intercooler setup, AND give you more options for a BOV/BPV configuration.

 

[CulRidr]

My suggestion? Start reading and searching, a LOT. Then read some more. And when you think you "know it all", read a lot more.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

haha I was going to mention your kit boosted.... you beat me to it.

I'd recommend trying to pick up a stock MSP kit. you'll need the rad, SMIC, boost tubes, some sort of oil plumbing solution, turbo, manifold, Downpipe (Both S and J sections) and an intake (neither your stocker or the CAI will work) though you may be able to retrofit part of the CAI dependin on how its put together.

if you want to spend some extra money and simplify a couple things,you could stick with your factory radiator setup and go strait to a front mount intercooler setup. this will have performance benefits all its own on top of the factory MSP intercooler setup, AND give you more options for a BOV/BPV configuration.

thanks man.. my kits a good starter, and upgrade, if you do it right, ya know?

gotta watch the boost finger. and prepare for bad things to happen, cuz they will. but 5psi is generally a safe bet. no issues.

and culrider is TOTALLY right. in the mean time though, buy mine rofl.

 

[Wagonbacker9]

My suggestion? Start reading and searching, a LOT. Then read some more. And when you think you "know it all", read a lot more.

also a good plan. Your best resource would be build threads of p5 guys who have turbo'd their cars.... there are more than a few, and I haven't seen a whole lot of MP3 guys go turbo. you're also going to be needing some sort of engine management, so be on the lookout for what guys used for that while you're scouring the forums.

 

[MonzdaCon]

Thanks alot for the post guys, i just went out for a smoke and i have 5 responses. i do have some money but it will be trying to get everything together throughout the summer and build it up. boostdprotegelx how much would you be willing to part with for your set up. is it worth it for me or should i still go with my custom build. what if i wanted more than 5 psi?

one of you guys said that you dont know too much people that turbo an MP3 is that cause there was only so much made or becuase its not a good idea to do it.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

Thanks alot for the post guys, i just went out for a smoke and i have 5 responses. i do have some money but it will be trying to get everything together throughout the summer and build it up. boostdprotegelx how much would you be willing to part with for your set up. is it worth it for me or should i still go with my custom build. what if i wanted more than 5 psi?

one of you guys said that you dont know too much people that turbo an MP3 is that cause there was only so much made or becuase its not a good idea to do it.

my sig for information. i might be willing to throw in the mpi as well...

and it's not a bad thing to go turbo in the least. there's just not many mp3s period... and, as far as your more than 5psi,...you'll just have to build your motor. so, if you plan on going more than that, make sure while you're running 5psi, you are saving for a built motor...custom build is exactly what i have for my turbo kit... there's maybe 1 other person with this kit.

 

[MonzdaCon]

oh ya one more thing, what should i expect to spend for the whole proccess. i was hoping between 1200-1600 but if it is more then i might have to do a little more saving.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

oh ya one more thing, what should i expect to spend for the whole proccess. i was hoping between 1200-1600 but if it is more then i might have to do a little more saving.

yeah. gonna need more than that buddy. my kit is over that already.. but i'm willing to accept payments, with a big downpayment.. but for a built motor, at least 4k... unless you do it yourself..

check my sig, and you'll see the kit. it's beautiful.

 

[CulRidr]

do a LOT more saving if you don't want a cheap very used kit with everything you need, that is also reliable.
And the only reason an MP3 is mentioned is because you won't want to use your ECU.

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

do a LOT more saving if you don't want a cheap very used kit with everything you need, that is also reliable.
And the only reason an MP3 is mentioned is because you won't want to use your ECU.

cheap very used?? dude, mine is hardly used. very nice.

 

[Wagonbacker9]

The MP3 is special (performance wise at least) because it has a nice ECU tuned for premium gas. This ECU is useless with boost, so you'll need to give up the only real MP3 performance part in order to slap on a turbo. (on the plus side, some Protege ES or Protege 5 owner would be THRILLED for you to sell them your MP3 ECU and you can use that to offset a bit of your turbo build cost).

As was mentioned, you do NOT want to boost anything over 6psi without doing some MAJOR spending. Remember, that boost on its own doesn't equal power. you have to have the flow to back it up. if you do some reading, MSPs only run 6psi of boost stock, and start blowing up somewhere around 10 psi.. The FSDE is just not a very boost happy engine... and unless you put in forged pistons and rods (at which point you are talking a MAJOR cost and time commitment), you'll be asking for membership in the zoom zoom boom club if you up the boost over stock MSP levels.

I'm not trying to be a jerk when I say this... but you need to do a LOT of reading (you're in the right place, just look around), and look into what this is really going to cost you before you consider it further.

 

[MonzdaCon]

alright this all sounds good but still you have an idea of this price, and downpayment. i might be willing to do that but i was going to buy most of the parts new and install them myself or take it to my family shop.

 

[Wagonbacker9]

if you're talking new parts.. you're talking a LOT more money. Just the turbo itself will **** you new.. and you can pick up a lightly used one for a decent price... you might be able to get one with the MPI and/or protegegarage bushing/compressor upgrade for less than a new one would cost you... doing the wrench time yourself will save you a TON though.

 

[CulRidr]

cheap very used?? dude, mine is hardly used. very nice.

Where did I mention your kit? I was referring to his present budget, which is half of what you are asking, as you pointed out.

 

[MonzdaCon]

The MP3 is special (performance wise at least) because it has a nice ECU tuned for premium gas. This ECU is useless with boost, so you'll need to give up the only real MP3 performance part in order to slap on a turbo. (on the plus side, some Protege ES or Protege 5 owner would be THRILLED for you to sell them your MP3 ECU and you can use that to offset a bit of your turbo build cost).

As was mentioned, you do NOT want to boost anything over 6psi without doing some MAJOR spending. Remember, that boost on its own doesn't equal power. you have to have the flow to back it up. if you do some reading, MSPs only run 6psi of boost stock, and start blowing up somewhere around 10 psi.. The FSDE is just not a very boost happy engine... and unless you put in forged pistons and rods (at which point you are talking a MAJOR cost and time commitment), you'll be asking for membership in the zoom zoom boom club if you up the boost over stock MSP levels.

I'm not trying to be a jerk when I say this... but you need to do a LOT of reading (you're in the right place, just look around), and look into what this is really going to cost you before you consider it further.

thanks alot for the post man, very informational. i guess that 5 would be good to start with but how much more power (horsepower) does this give my car. i have no problem spending the money it will just take longer which is fine. and like you said the zoo, zoom, boom clue is a place i do not want to be.

 

[CulRidr]

5-6psi will get you ~150whp depending on the rest of your setup (a GOOD tune will get you more).
I'm gunning for 150whp myself, WITHOUT a turbo...

 

[Dpwhitehead1]

Where did I mention your kit? I was referring to his present budget, which is half of what you are asking, as you pointed out.

that's my bad man. my dumb assumption.

thanks alot for the post man, very informational. i guess that 5 would be good to start with but how much more power (horsepower) does this give my car. i have no problem spending the money it will just take longer which is fine. and like you said the zoo, zoom, boom clue is a place i do not want to be.

i pmed you. you should be good to go now.

 

[CulRidr]

No worries, I know your kit is quality (the welds alone say that from what my inexperienced eyes tell me)