How will the 2015 Honda Fit and competition affect the new Mazda2's pricing?

[c7scayman]

I test drove the 2015 Honda Fit EX this past weekend and it worried me a bit. It was too much. Too expensive, too many features. It was not what I expected from a sub-compact car.

I intend to buy the upcoming Mazda 2 based on the looks of the Hazumi concept. But I am also hoping for a price of $16000 or less. I don't see that happening.
The 2015 Honda Fit comes in three trims. The base, the EX, and the EX-L.

The EX I test drove cost $20,800. It came standard with leather heated seats, sunroof, spoiler, push-button start with smart key, alloy wheels, paddle shifters, fog lights, cruise control, reverse camera, blind spot side mirror camera, steering wheel controls, a touch screen interface, two USB ports, two auxiliary ports, and an HDMI port for iPhone screen sharing youtube video's, games, and apps (GPS, etc). It also had the quietest CVT transmission I have experienced. It felt and sounded like a normal transmission.

The EX-L added a standard GPS and about an extra $1500.

The 2015 Honda Fit EX-L now costs as much as a 2014 Mazda CX-5 Sport 2WD or a 2014 Mazda 6i.

The current gen Mazda 2 is very pricy for what they have to offer. The interior is cheap and it is underpowered. From spy shots of the new Mazda 2's interior, it will look it will have a high quality interior with the same Mazda 3 permanent dash pop-out display. I feel like the new Mazda 2 will be at least $3000 more expensive than the current model.

10 years ago subcompact cars were affordable at $10,000-13,000. With all the new features showing up in competition, I hope Mazda does not go too far so that they can keep the price down.

Does anyone have accurate estimates on pricing?

 

[genericmoniker]

I would imagine it'd stay under 22k, however, Mazda seems to be sliding everything towards being more "upscale" with slightly more luxury to keep up with the rest of the North American markets' wants.

 

[deadlydave]

The EX I test drove cost $20,800. It came standard with leather heated seats, sunroof, spoiler, push-button start with smart key, alloy wheels, paddle shifters, fog lights, cruise control, reverse camera, blind spot side mirror camera, steering wheel controls, a touch screen interface, two USB ports, two auxiliary ports, and an HDMI port for iPhone screen sharing youtube video's, games, and apps (GPS, etc). It also had the quietest CVT transmission I have experienced. It felt and sounded like a normal transmission.

I test drove the previous fit and it was slapped around by the current 2 on every dynamic front, and Autoblog has called the new Fit 'watered down' from the old one. My DD had to be practical and fun, and I felt like I was trading off a small bit of practicality/features for a lot of fun. Sporty character and efficiency without gimmicks were what sold me on the 2.

For the prices newer, more loaded Fits cost, I could get any number of new semi-efficient sports coupes. Or a nice 02-05 Porsche 911. I realize I'm part of a faltering, small, backwards-thinking group. Gadgets don't sell me on a car, the Car sells me on the car.

 

[Spinitsidewayz]

I test drove the previous fit and it was slapped around by the current 2 on every dynamic front, and Autoblog has called the new Fit 'watered down' from the old one. My DD had to be practical and fun, and I felt like I was trading off a small bit of practicality/features for a lot of fun. Sporty character and efficiency without gimmicks were what sold me on the 2.

For the prices newer, more loaded Fits cost, I could get any number of new semi-efficient sports coupes. Or a nice 02-05 Porsche 911. I realize I'm part of a faltering, small, backwards-thinking group. Gadgets don't sell me on a car, the Car sells me on the car.

This is exactly how i feel. Also, I'm not sure i really feel the new 2 interior. That's why they're called econoboxes right?

 

[poriggity]

For me, first and foremost, Driving enjoyment is what is going to sell me on a car. It could be bare bones with manual everything and no air conditioning, but if I enjoy driving it, then I'm going to buy it. On the flip side, it could be loaded to the gills with every option imaginable, but if I don't like driving it, there's no point in buying it just because it's "fancy". I am currently looking for an economical car, and I have found that the Hyundai Accent, Honda Fit, Fiat 500, and Nissan Versa are all approaching 15k easily. I don't know that there are anymore $10,000 economy cars in the marketplace, sadly enough.

 

[inspekt]

It's hard to say on pricing for the next gen 2. The Mazda 3 bumped up a little, but mostly held the line on pricing. The main difference being that now you can add more expensive options than ever before.

 

[deadlydave]

For me, first and foremost, Driving enjoyment is what is going to sell me on a car. It could be bare bones with manual everything and no air conditioning, but if I enjoy driving it, then I'm going to buy it. On the flip side, it could be loaded to the gills with every option imaginable, but if I don't like driving it, there's no point in buying it just because it's "fancy". I am currently looking for an economical car, and I have found that the Hyundai Accent, Honda Fit, Fiat 500, and Nissan Versa are all approaching 15k easily. I don't know that there are anymore $10,000 economy cars in the marketplace, sadly enough.

There really aren't. The base Versa Sedan's base price was still $12,000. With a $1500 optional 4-speed automatic transmission. The hatchback version starts at 14k, with the cheapest auto version at over $15k. Nissan has publicly admitted that they dislike the idea of premium or performance small/cheap cars, and they target cheap car buyers. A base Mini is going to be sharper than a 2, but those start at 20 grand.

This is exactly how i feel. Also, I'm not sure i really feel the new 2 interior. That's why they're called econoboxes right?

Haha, absolutely. Even high-performance $35k plus cars like the STI, Evo, and Golf R are just steroided-up econoboxes. I like simplicity, there's less stuff to go wrong.

 

[c7scayman]

I test drove the previous fit and it was slapped around by the current 2 on every dynamic front, and Autoblog has called the new Fit 'watered down' from the old one. My DD had to be practical and fun, and I felt like I was trading off a small bit of practicality/features for a lot of fun. Sporty character and efficiency without gimmicks were what sold me on the 2.

For the prices newer, more loaded Fits cost, I could get any number of new semi-efficient sports coupes. Or a nice 02-05 Porsche 911. I realize I'm part of a faltering, small, backwards-thinking group. Gadgets don't sell me on a car, the Car sells me on the car.

I agree, especially since I had a Porsche. I was saying that I am worried that Mazda will go more upscale with the mazda 2 and will pack more features to compete, pricing it out of my price range of less than $16,000.

 

[deadlydave]

I agree, especially since I had a Porsche. I was saying that I am worried that Mazda will go more upscale with the mazda 2 and will pack more features to compete, pricing it out of my price range of less than $16,000.

That's certainly possible. Hopefully they keep 2-3 trims available, an the price in check. Mazda's almost the only Japanese car company left that hasn't been Toyota-ized into selling Vanilla Toasters.

 

[16vPete]

I test drove the previous fit and it was slapped around by the current 2 on every dynamic front, and Autoblog has called the new Fit 'watered down' from the old one. My DD had to be practical and fun, and I felt like I was trading off a small bit of practicality/features for a lot of fun. Sporty character and efficiency without gimmicks were what sold me on the 2.

For the prices newer, more loaded Fits cost, I could get any number of new semi-efficient sports coupes. Or a nice 02-05 Porsche 911. I realize I'm part of a faltering, small, backwards-thinking group. Gadgets don't sell me on a car, the Car sells me on the car.

Agreed. I really hope the new 2 isn't spoiled with a larger price tag for a couple of gimmicky, non-econobox features and potentially less fun-to-drive experience.

My quick 2 cents regarding fun-to-drive factor and features: the base 2 is the most fun to drive with power windows, the base Fiesta is about as fun to drive, but has manual windows and costs a little more (though like the deal I got with Mazda, I bet Ford is good with loyalty discounts which would certainly help drop the price).

 

[magnumP5]

Take a quick glance at the "This is the new Mazda 2..." threads. If half of what people are requesting in those threads comes to fruition I wouldn't be surprised if a fully-loaded 2 breakes the $22K mark.

 

[Chris_Top_Her]

Yea, and a fully loaded 2015 mirage is even less still

 

[Rose4uKY]

I am getting a Mazda 2 Zeal Red 2014 touring automatic on Friday with added factory Bluetooth and my total price out the door is 16,083 Plus I have cheap 1200 trade in. So I'll be at about 15. I looked at Versa Note with loaded features and it was still going to be higher.I am happy with my choice and will have it on Friday. Mazda has 2000 off right now and my husband just bought a 3 grand touring hatchback labor day so I get an additional 500 off plus the dealership also gave me extra off. And when the place my husband just got his car from tells me the price is too good to be true go get it I said OK and I will have it on Friday. I had to put 500 down to have the BT put in and my price is locked in so I think I did good and am happy. One dealer told my husband the same thing on his 3 they sent us out the door and said the price was too good to be true and he got it for a 1000 cheaper cause they had an extra 500 off labor day coupon we got in the email. But I did my homework from true car and called several dealers within a 2 to 4 hour radius and found one to give me this great price but was 3 hours away then I found another dealer closer who matched the price at 2 hours away in Cincy but they have another dealership in Ky where I live 30 minutes from my house it's a Chevy dealership owned by the same person so Friday they are bringing me this car. I can't wait!

 

[deadlydave]

Yea, and a fully loaded 2015 mirage is even less still

Herpes is technically free, but I wouldn't want that either.

 

[magnumP5]

Herpes is technically free, but I wouldn't want that either.

LOL, there is a reason the Mirage is cited as the worst car on the market in America by multiple reviewers...

 

[Jin]

need keyless entry, push start, cruise control, and bluetooth

I'm eyeing the fit too but I want to see the Mazda 2 first

 

[Jin]

I test drove the 2015 Honda Fit EX this past weekend and it worried me a bit. It was too much. Too expensive, too many features. It was not what I expected from a sub-compact car.

I intend to buy the upcoming Mazda 2 based on the looks of the Hazumi concept. But I am also hoping for a price of $16000 or less. I don't see that happening.
The 2015 Honda Fit comes in three trims. The base, the EX, and the EX-L.

The EX I test drove cost $20,800. It came standard with leather heated seats, sunroof, spoiler, push-button start with smart key, alloy wheels, paddle shifters, fog lights, cruise control, reverse camera, blind spot side mirror camera, steering wheel controls, a touch screen interface, two USB ports, two auxiliary ports, and an HDMI port for iPhone screen sharing youtube video's, games, and apps (GPS, etc). It also had the quietest CVT transmission I have experienced. It felt and sounded like a normal transmission.

The EX-L added a standard GPS and about an extra $1500.

The 2015 Honda Fit EX-L now costs as much as a 2014 Mazda CX-5 Sport 2WD or a 2014 Mazda 6i.

The current gen Mazda 2 is very pricy for what they have to offer. The interior is cheap and it is underpowered. From spy shots of the new Mazda 2's interior, it will look it will have a high quality interior with the same Mazda 3 permanent dash pop-out display. I feel like the new Mazda 2 will be at least $3000 more expensive than the current model.

10 years ago subcompact cars were affordable at $10,000-13,000. With all the new features showing up in competition, I hope Mazda does not go too far so that they can keep the price down.

Does anyone have accurate estimates on pricing?

Versa

 

[Jin]

For me, first and foremost, Driving enjoyment is what is going to sell me on a car. It could be bare bones with manual everything and no air conditioning, but if I enjoy driving it, then I'm going to buy it. On the flip side, it could be loaded to the gills with every option imaginable, but if I don't like driving it, there's no point in buying it just because it's "fancy". I am currently looking for an economical car, and I have found that the Hyundai Accent, Honda Fit, Fiat 500, and Nissan Versa are all approaching 15k easily. I don't know that there are anymore $10,000 economy cars in the marketplace, sadly enough.

Mirage