How many are running J&S safeguard?
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yashart_mp3
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Knox Joe said:
Holy Sheeeeet! Thats a long time... I hope mine doesn't take that long
I bought mine there as well and it took a long time to receive it, but I would not trade it for anything.yashart_mp3 said:
I know it has allowed me to run some crazy boost levels (like the few 20PSI runs) and not break my motor. There are 2 others around here with the same J&S/MPI combo and I know Apoc has ran up to 19PSI on an upgraded turbo with his setup.
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shane02pro5
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I love mine but I'm only at 12psi on my IHI VF22. From NSN took around 3 weeks. Soon to be at 18 on a built motor!!
Hmm.. well then I am mis-informed. I was under the impression it was per cylinder according to John at J&S.mspHtown said:
Oh well either way it is nice to have it on board to reign in the timing when needed and you dont even have to think about it the J&S does it for you.
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shane02pro5
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It does have individual cylinder knock retard although you are only tapping 2 coil wires.
The MPI gives you a lot of control but it takes time to learn how to use it (generally takes two people one to drive and one who knows how to tune.)69RMSP said:
I like the interface, the software, and the datalogging. Apoc tunes mine for me
I will be adding the two extra injectors to mine as this setup delivers plenty of fuel and does not seem to affect gas milage; provided you don't hammer it.
I don't know about the other fuel controllers.
There a few nice solutions running around. The MPI is A REAL BEAR to install.
Lot of soldering, cussing, resoldering, and some prayer. It is very easy to kill your coils during an install so you MUST have someone put their hands on the coils while you wire it in and make sure you don't have something wired wrong. It is not for the faint of heart.
thanks for the responce. I would have someone install it for me but id have to learn how to tune it ;/
yashooa said:The MPI gives you a lot of control but it takes time to learn how to use it (generally takes two people one to drive and one who knows how to tune.)
I like the interface, the software, and the datalogging. Apoc tunes mine for me
I will be adding the two extra injectors to mine as this setup delivers plenty of fuel and does not seem to affect gas milage; provided you don't hammer it.
I don't know about the other fuel controllers.
There a few nice solutions running around. The MPI is A REAL BEAR to install.
Lot of soldering, cussing, resoldering, and some prayer. It is very easy to kill your coils during an install so you MUST have someone put their hands on the coils while you wire it in and make sure you don't have something wired wrong. It is not for the faint of heart.
Well as far as tuning goes Apocman might be able to give you a few maps to start but the Unichip is nice as well (allthough more pricey) but you can't tune it yourself.69RMSP said:
He pretty much learned from asking the right people on the forum and off, and then just tuned several cars over and over again. Mine kicked ass and when it was on it was great. I never truly got to tune it all the way because I made enough power at high boost to kill this 309 lbs-ft clutch.
No mater what you run the J&S can save your ass and really once you set your timing map it takes care of the rest in fact you don't have to mess with the timing very much at all with it in there. It is smarter than any static map.
Good luck.
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yashart_mp3
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yashart_mp3 said:
7 weeks and counting
shane02pro5
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I didn't hook up the tps wire since my haltech already pulls me out of closed loop over 30% throttle. I think most leave that wire alone.
This was my response back from Steve at NSN.
Re: J&S Supersafeguard (Install time Question TPS wire?)
<HR style="COLOR: #d1d1e1" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->You don't actually need to wire in the TPS wire for the J&S... I believe it is only used for the "tricking" of the stock ECU if you want to go that route... check my website (www.nsnmotorsports.com) and go into the documents section as we have a J&S install writeup in there as well. Later! Steve
This was my response back from Steve at NSN.
Re: J&S Supersafeguard (Install time Question TPS wire?)
<HR style="COLOR: #d1d1e1" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->You don't actually need to wire in the TPS wire for the J&S... I believe it is only used for the "tricking" of the stock ECU if you want to go that route... check my website (www.nsnmotorsports.com) and go into the documents section as we have a J&S install writeup in there as well. Later! Steve
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