How easy can someone steal your car??

If a theif can find +12 volts and the wire to the starter he's got you with our cars.
 
did anybody see that special on discovery channel about car theft...basically they had a guy who used to steal cars...

if you have a car alarm and i want your car...i'm gonna take your car

if you have a car alarm and a club...i'm gonna take your car

if you ave a carl alarm, a club, and a brake panel lock (i don't know what it's called)...i'll probably leave your car alone
 
i saw that discovery thing yesterday, too. i think it was called "every 23 seconds" or something like that. the craziest part, i think, is how they can completely strip your car in about 20 minutes. no hood, no trunk, no doors, no stereo, no seats. 20 minutes. damn.
 
A question: In the video clip they keep talking about "grabbing the code". This implies that they are using a "replay attack".

But... Isn't this what a "rolling code" system is designed to foil? See this article.

This device must be doing something more, or it must be using the same pseudo-random number generator and/or exploiting the "next 256 valid codes" thing?

Locks truly only prevent crimes of opportunity. As others have said, if someone wants to steal your car (or B&E your house) bad enough, they can do it and you cannot stop them.

What we need is to drive Transformers(tm). If someone starts messing with your car it unfolds itself into a robot and beats the crap out of them.

Now that would be funny! :D
 
well if you reallt think of it. if some one really wanted to steal your car then can go around with a tow truck and just tow the car right way.


see this is why you nee low jack or something like that.

but just to let people know. when i had my ledgen i had an alarm. one day i was walking to my car and wanted to test out the range of the alarm button on my key chain. so as i was walking to my car i was pressing the button all of a sudden i hear a chirp of a alarm but it isn't my alarm. so i hit the button agian and i look and I WAS DISARMING SOME ONE ELSE ALARM!!! :wtf: :wtf: lol it was funny. i guess that alram used the same fq as my alram. just wanted to share that. lol
 
big_ben said:
I wish someone would steal mine. I'd be at the mitsu dealership tomarrow. Actually, I'd probably buy the Audi TT to drive for the next two years. If someone want's to steal a MP3, I live in Arlington......, Please.

(lol) (lol) (lol)

The funiest s*** I've seen all day! Ben is officially crazy. :D
 
Toru said:
A question: In the video clip they keep talking about "grabbing the code". This implies that they are using a "replay attack".

But... Isn't this what a "rolling code" system is designed to foil? See this article.

This device must be doing something more, or it must be using the same pseudo-random number generator and/or exploiting the "next 256 valid codes" thing?

Locks truly only prevent crimes of opportunity. As others have said, if someone wants to steal your car (or B&E your house) bad enough, they can do it and you cannot stop them.

What we need is to drive Transformers(tm). If someone starts messing with your car it unfolds itself into a robot and beats the crap out of them.

Now that would be funny! :D

I think the vunerability comes in when you only have one button for arming and disarming. I believe if you have a two button system, you lock it, they grab it, they only get your lock code. When you unlock it, they could get that code two, but it would be pointless because the next button you pushed would be the lock button. Add rollin code to that, and it makes it better.
 
Chances say the guy stealing your car is not going to be code grabbing, maybe if you had a ferrari but not a Protege. He's either tearing out the lock, breaking a window or slim jimming the car to get in then either taking your stereo or hot wiring the car. If your alarm is just under the dash and didn't have a spectacular install then you just made the theifs job eisier by basicly telling him which wire is which. THis is of coarse if he didn't just rip the key insert out and use a screw driver.

But as someone said before, often they just tow the car.
 
If they want your car, they can take it. Thats that. We live in a world were that happens. It sucks and luckly I haven't had it happen to me (yet). The best theft deterent is to drive something that is not to rare or not to expinsive or not to nice. Even then, someone will still take it if they can. I guess that is why we try to feel safe with insurance and s***. We can only realy prevent crimes of opprotunity.
 
One additional trick

When I had to leave my '92 Saturn coupe in a bad neighborhood for work, I'd pop the fuel pump relay (it was in the instrument panel fuse panel) and take it with me. I'd also put the Club on the steering wheel. Nothing is foolproof, except for wiring the car like Mad Max, but it was one more thing to slow them down. Jim
 
Very true that if a thief wants your car they'll take it. I put a secret switch on my car car that when switched on, the whole ignition is dead. Car won't start no matter how hard you try unless you hit the switch. The thief would basically have to rip out your dash in order to try to get the car started without flipping the switch. It's a great device to slow/stop thieves from stealing your car.
 
Which wire goes to the switch, where does it tie in. Unless. The only way a switch will help is if the wire is intercepted after the last possible location a theif can grab it.
 
I'm not sure how it's setup. I had my speed shop do it for me. Alll I know is that the engine won't even create a spark when the switch is turned on so that's why the car won't start even with the key.
 
They probably took the starter wire from the column and cut it and ran extensions from each side to that switch. Technicaly all a theif has to do is go to the column and rip out what they did and put it back together or grab the starter side of the wire and short it to the constant 12 volt wire at the column.
 
did anyone watch "repossesors" on discovery a couple days ago?

man, that repo guy was skilled, he picked the door locks in less than a min, then he MADE a key in less then a minute, started the car and drove off.

skills.
 

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