Just wondering how you guys shift in regards to clutch. In normal driving ill shift around 2200 to save gas and basically i just push clutch in, shift, and remove it as fast (not racing fast but just briskly. . . not slipping it I guess). Sort of like dumping the clutch i guess. Actually to be honest I really don't know what "dumping the clutch" means. I guess its when you launch and rip the clutch out as fast as you can from a standstill? My cousin was driving my car and I noticed he slipped the clutch pretty much every gear like when you start from a stop. Every gear he pulled the clutch out slowly as apposed to fast like me. Any thoughts?? Is it better to slip the clutch every shift??
How do you guy shift ??
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justanothermp5
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as long as u dont ride the clutch i dont think it really matters in everyday driving
i shift like : gas.....let off gas, push in clutch,shift gears, let clutch out at a medium speed till it catches and press on gas
i drive slow and hardly ever bring the revs over 3500 unless im passing someone or someone pissed me off lol
i shift like : gas.....let off gas, push in clutch,shift gears, let clutch out at a medium speed till it catches and press on gas
i drive slow and hardly ever bring the revs over 3500 unless im passing someone or someone pissed me off lol
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i let the clutch slip a little cause i dont like the hard jerk in either
my MSP(now my brothers) or my MS6. but when i race i WOT shift my MSP and shift as fast as i can in the MS6.
my MSP(now my brothers) or my MS6. but when i race i WOT shift my MSP and shift as fast as i can in the MS6.
With some practice my shifts at 2k when i pull the clutch out quick are smooth as silk. You can't even feel them. Sometimes when the engine has not warmed up all the way it will jerk. There are only a few points on my car where I can pull the clutch out fast like this consistantly without jerk. Thats at 2K and 3K. Any other RPM will jerk. From what im gathering it seems like most people slip the clutch a little every shift. Cant wait until I install my rear motor mount. Then hopefully I wont have to work so hard to get a smooth ride. The only PITA is the 1st to 2nd shift. Im driving a speed 6 also btw. Also what do you mean by riding the clutch? Do you mean leave it in a while as you start giving the car gas?Thx for your input guys.
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The best way to shift to second is to get it over with. As soon as you get the car moving and hit 2200 put it in second. I used to take it to 3 grand and shift and the rpms wouldnt drop fast enough and it would jerk. But after that I usually shift around 2800-3200. Sometimes you can ride first out to 3500 hold the clutch in for a second and put it in 3rd.
I agree. With mine I have been trying to get the best mileage and smoothest shifting. I have been doing the exact same thing in town and it works great. I even put the thing in sixth gear at anything above 35 MPH. Not sure what most of you are getting for gas mileage but I am up to about 23MPG with mixed driving now. Thats both city and highway. And on the highway I average about 75-80. So the in city is really helping....
One thing you want to be careful about is RPMs aren't everything in regards to getting better gas mileage.
I used to drive in 6th quite a bit at 35-40 MPH but, unless you're going downhill or are perfectly flat you are probably using more fuel since you are putting more load on the engine than you would be in 5th gear (really noticeable if going up any sort of incline). I gained at least a few MPG by staying in 5th more often where before I would be in 6th. It's really easy to feel with the pedal, if you feel like you're pushing the gas pedal in quite a bit then you might want to stay in a lower gear because you are either nearing 0psi or maybe even going into boost a bit.
The greater amount of fuel I was using was really easy to see on my MSP since I had my laptop open a lot with the Microtech plugged in...you may be at a lower RPM but your injectors are open for longer in order to supply more fuel for the increased load.
Just something to test out.
I understand what you are saying. But when I am in sixth I am mainly coasting. Not really getting on it at all but rather maintaining speed. I am not trying to force it to accelerate or anything. And this car uses direct injection which is a lot like how a diesel works. There really isn't a way to compare this to the MSP which used port injection. The injectors work differently in this car.
But yes I do understand what you mean......
1-3-5-6 and break it on down.
Yeah, but our power band starts at 3600 RPM, which is about 90MPH in 6th. I really don't want to have to wait until 120 to shift from 5th to 6th. (lol2)
The difference in gas between 70 and 80MPH is somewhat astonishing. Almost a full gallon per hour to maintain speed with the cruise control in 6th gear. From 80 to 95 is about the same, but then it jumps again. That's not the engine, that's the aerodynamics. Stick below 75MPH and you'll save a lot of gas.
Typically around town I shift 1st to ~4k, 3rd to ~4k, then 5th. I just pause longer between 1st and 3rd. I'm still faster than most cars from the light. A stupid HUMMER tried to race me onto the interstate one day right after I shifted to third, I still dusted him with no trouble.
Most of the time I'm cruising between traffic lights and rarely go above 50-60MPH. If I'm in a long stretch I'll shift to 6th, but always downshift when speeding up. I'm averaging around 27MPG right now (which includes some highway each day).
Our car doesn't really have a lot of torque, so starting in second is not recommended. I used to do it in my mustang all the time (2-4-5 shifts). My clutches usually last to around 90k miles. 1st one goes a littler earlier cause your learning the car and hot-rodding more. My last Mazda (93 MX6) had over 220k miles and only one clutch change. Still ran perfect when I sold it.
Yeah, but our power band starts at 3600 RPM, which is about 90MPH in 6th. I really don't want to have to wait until 120 to shift from 5th to 6th. (lol2)
The difference in gas between 70 and 80MPH is somewhat astonishing. Almost a full gallon per hour to maintain speed with the cruise control in 6th gear. From 80 to 95 is about the same, but then it jumps again. That's not the engine, that's the aerodynamics. Stick below 75MPH and you'll save a lot of gas.
Typically around town I shift 1st to ~4k, 3rd to ~4k, then 5th. I just pause longer between 1st and 3rd. I'm still faster than most cars from the light. A stupid HUMMER tried to race me onto the interstate one day right after I shifted to third, I still dusted him with no trouble.
Most of the time I'm cruising between traffic lights and rarely go above 50-60MPH. If I'm in a long stretch I'll shift to 6th, but always downshift when speeding up. I'm averaging around 27MPG right now (which includes some highway each day).
Our car doesn't really have a lot of torque, so starting in second is not recommended. I used to do it in my mustang all the time (2-4-5 shifts). My clutches usually last to around 90k miles. 1st one goes a littler earlier cause your learning the car and hot-rodding more. My last Mazda (93 MX6) had over 220k miles and only one clutch change. Still ran perfect when I sold it.
27MPG?? How the hell are you doing the math? And what octane fuel are you using? I don't see how this would be possible here in Cali where we get pisswater for gas.
This is how I calculate mine. I fill my tank til I can see it is totally full. Up to the filler neck and then reset my trip odometer. After I drive I take the total miles driven and divide it by the amount of fuel it took to refill the tank in the same way. I am averaging around 19-23 MPG. It was better before all the reflashing. But I only get the high mileage with no city driving at all. If I got 27MPG I would be in heaven!!!
I remember hearing from some TV show that filling up your gas after it clicks the 1st time is bad. I think they said a lot of that extra gas you put in after the 1st click just evaporates or something like that. I could be wrong though. Also I get some good mpg's in the city. I shift low at 2200 / windows down at under 50 mph unless is blasting hot (here in florida 
). Granted I have an intake / exhaust which supposedly help gas mileage i get around 22 - 23'ish in the city.
). Granted I have an intake / exhaust which supposedly help gas mileage i get around 22 - 23'ish in the city.93 octane. I use a ScanGuageII.
After I fill up it confirms the amount I refilled, and averages the previous tanks. It also measures in real-time the MPG, and GPH while you're on the road.
