Liquidturbo2000
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Does the fact that Ford owns Mazda bother you?
How do you feel about reliability?
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- 2002 BJFW, 2007 BK3P, 1979 SA22C, 2005 BK3P
As long as Mazda stays Mazda and Ford stays Crap I am not bothered in the least bit. If Mazda becomes the bastard dumping ground for FoMoCo (i.e - Mazda6 is really a Taurus, Protege becomes a Focus) then I will roll heads. Until then, zoom zoom on I shall.
Besides, everything I have read and heard says that Mazda has and continues to make top-notch automobiles. If I had thought Ford had anything to do with that, I would have stuck with Toyota.
Besides, everything I have read and heard says that Mazda has and continues to make top-notch automobiles. If I had thought Ford had anything to do with that, I would have stuck with Toyota.
why would that bother me?
now if mazda was owned by chevy then if would bother me.
mazda6/atenza is riding on its own mazda engineered C/D platform.
protege/5 will share its platform with the future focus but the sheet metal will be all different.
now if mazda was owned by chevy then if would bother me.
mazda6/atenza is riding on its own mazda engineered C/D platform.
protege/5 will share its platform with the future focus but the sheet metal will be all different.
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- 2002 BJFW, 2007 BK3P, 1979 SA22C, 2005 BK3P
When I said (i.e - mazda6 really is a taurus), I meant that in the context of a "what if" scenario. I failed to make that clear though.
If the next Protege is shared with the Focus, I hope that it's in the way that that the 323 and Escort were both Mazda built in the early 1990s. Once Mazda stopped building Escorts it all went downhill from there. My sister's 1997 Escort had to be one of the slowest, clunkiest most unreliable piece of junk...
Basically, I just want to see "Mazdaspeed" and not "Motorcraft" on my vehicles
If the next Protege is shared with the Focus, I hope that it's in the way that that the 323 and Escort were both Mazda built in the early 1990s. Once Mazda stopped building Escorts it all went downhill from there. My sister's 1997 Escort had to be one of the slowest, clunkiest most unreliable piece of junk...
Basically, I just want to see "Mazdaspeed" and not "Motorcraft" on my vehicles
Do you really think the volvo, jaguar or aston martin owners really cares.. cause if they don't neither do I.....
AS for the ford comment, as them being a POS I can show you the problem list my friend had on his BMW 330 or how about my friends SLK .... doesn't matter what you drive you will always think something else is a POS.
My Dad's best vehicules where Fords... the GM's the Dodge/chrysler... and yes even toyota's had more problems then my dad's full size van or his F150.... Doesn't matter what you drive... a car is designed by a human, built by a human and driven by one... as far as I know human's make mistakes... seems to me a car has a 1 in 3 chance of getting someone that will make a mistake.... doesn't matter if it's an americain, a german or a japanese we all have our bad days....
Jc
AS for the ford comment, as them being a POS I can show you the problem list my friend had on his BMW 330 or how about my friends SLK .... doesn't matter what you drive you will always think something else is a POS.
My Dad's best vehicules where Fords... the GM's the Dodge/chrysler... and yes even toyota's had more problems then my dad's full size van or his F150.... Doesn't matter what you drive... a car is designed by a human, built by a human and driven by one... as far as I know human's make mistakes... seems to me a car has a 1 in 3 chance of getting someone that will make a mistake.... doesn't matter if it's an americain, a german or a japanese we all have our bad days....
Jc
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Lets put it this way, the Protege 5 is 97% Japanese parts, 3% US/Canada parts. All assembly in Japan. I don't think Ford had any part in the design or construction of the car.
From all I have read, Ford's control over Mazda has been limited mostly to guidance and financial help...they want Mazda cars to stay Mazda cars.
So no, it doesn't bother me in the least
From all I have read, Ford's control over Mazda has been limited mostly to guidance and financial help...they want Mazda cars to stay Mazda cars.
So no, it doesn't bother me in the least
Well it bothers me. I'd prefer if Mazda was ONLY Mazda. In the same way, I think Toyota made a mistake when it went tag-teaming with Pontiac/GM.
Honda's got the right attitude and is staying Honda. Financially I'm sure it hurts a little...and may slow down R+D, but at least your Honda is still a Honda.
In any case...if my Mazda is as reliable as I expect it to be, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another.
Like JCS said - everybody screws up...I just want to ensure the car is engineered properly.
Honda's got the right attitude and is staying Honda. Financially I'm sure it hurts a little...and may slow down R+D, but at least your Honda is still a Honda.
In any case...if my Mazda is as reliable as I expect it to be, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another.
Like JCS said - everybody screws up...I just want to ensure the car is engineered properly.
FWIW I believe the main/only reason Mazda allowed Ford to buy a controlling share (Ford owns 33%) is that Mazda was in big financial trouble several years back and needed some bail out. Same with Jag and Volvo I believe. If Ford had not stepped in Mazda would probably not have the $ to make sweet new models like the P5, MS Protege, Mazda 6 or RX8. So perhaps it's a "good thing" Ford is there...
