hmmm. is it just me, or is there ALOT of problem threads on this BBS?

wow. i also participate in an older 911 bbs. most of those threads are "wow, look at my car!". there alot of maintenence questions, but not that many "how do i fix...." threads. not bad for some 25+ year old cars.

broken gas cap? missing oil? WTF? would you have still bought the car after reading so many threads?

i am just pissy because i zoomzoomed myself into my first speeding ticket...in a long while...
 
They don't make 'em like the used to is the first thing that comes to mind.

Plus, what percentage of MS3 owners is represented on this board? And within that group, how many of them have problems? The number may be smaller than you think.

And to answer your last question, absolutely I would buy it again. I look at things like "broken gas cap" threads and compare them to "gas pedal broke off" threads on Evo message boards. I think there are small issues with many modern cars across the board, but that doesn't mean you should condemn one type of car over another. You have to put everything in perspective my friend.

For the most part, it's the same thing with computers. I happen to work in the IT field and hear all the time from customers "I will never buy a Dell, HP, Toshia, Sony, etc. again!". Why? Because they had one bad experience and it ruined the brand for them.

On a side note, sorry to hear about your ticket. Mine is coming any day now, I can feel it.
 
Because no one goes around posting, "I just drove my car yesterday and nothing broke."

People are more vocal when they complain. That, and the innanets only represents a small portion of ownership.
 
If you've got an MS3, the first mod shouldn't be a CAI or a race pipe, it should be a damned Valentine.

And all of you know it. :)
 
You think MS3s have problems??

You should do a quick visit through a New Beetle forum, like I did when I owned/drove one. Much more exiting in that sense with people not understanding why the CEL came on for the Nth time, why the plastic in the interior is peeling, why the AC isn't working, why they need to change their coilpacks, why the window switches keep breaking, etc.

It's exactly that lack of problems on this forum that gave me a bit of peace of mind in buying a speed3 :)
 
I think people tend to voice their opinion more when they feel strongly about something. It looks to me as though people with Porsches get excited (in a good way) when they run, and people with ms3s get excited when they break (in a bad way, of course). Maybe it's just me, but it seems like Porsche owners expect them to break down, and ms3 owners expect them to run. No offense, but I don't really think it matters either way. Overall, I think we all like our cars, or we wouldn't own them.

Even with some "over-reported" problems, I'd much rather have the info. Still love the ms3...would buy another one in a second.
 
I think people tend to voice their opinion more when they feel strongly about something. It looks to me as though people with Porsches get excited (in a good way) when they run, and people with ms3s get excited when they break (in a bad way, of course). Maybe it's just me, but it seems like Porsche owners expect them to break down, and ms3 owners expect them to run. No offense, but I don't really think it matters either way. Overall, I think we all like our cars, or we wouldn't own them.

Even with some "over-reported" problems, I'd much rather have the info. Still love the ms3...would buy another one in a second.

I agree with this. I also frequent Porsche forums and own one myself. As much as I love it, it has easily been one of the most unreliable machines I have ever purchased.
 
Don't ever visit the MKIV forum on VW vortex. (doh)

how about don't ever visit vortex, period.

but yeah, complaints are a function of internet forums. many people know why and when something is working right. they tend to know when something is working wrong but don't know why. they will ask on the board as it's the best way to get a focuses survey of answers/opinions. it's a great thing, really. also, as performance goes up, people push their vehicles and you end up having more things pop up. nothing is perfect, not even f-22 raptors. unfort our ms3's don't have round the clock service teams keeping them in shape, so we have to stay up on them the best we can!
 
Younger Age group

I think it probably has to do with the fact that the car is styled and priced towards a younger crowd. With the MS3 it is probably a lot of people's first time tinkering with a car and have a lot more questions or problems to ask the forum about. The porsche forum, I would think, would be a lot older and be people who don't go to the forums for their problems. Just some thoughts.
 
thanks.

all VERY good points.

i do love my car. contemplating, taking it archery hunting tonight. well, using it just to get me and my gear there. then the beater ford exploder takes over for the wet work.
 
hahaha You are standing on a path that leads off to the west.....

I lawl'd.

"Oh crap, should I head west or north? Maybe I need to go back to the dungeon and kill the Seraph first? ****, what do I do?! I knew I should've read The Silmarillion!!"
 
This forum has a much younger demographic than a forum devoted to a 25+ year old Porsche is going to have. They're going to be harder on their cars and a lack of experience is going to lead to more issues. High expectations can lead to frustration when something isn't spot-on perfect.

You say "xyzzy" to the parrot.
 
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