Help with new tires for 2012 Mazda 5 sport?

salander

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mazda 5 sport
I just bought a 2012 mazda 5 sport with 40K miles from Hertz rent2buy. Everything checked out fine per the local Mazda dealer, but it needs new tires. I currently live in MN but am moving to Florida in a couple of months. According to the service person there, the OEM tires are noisy so he suggested getting something else.

What are some good affordable tires to get in order to cut down road noise? Once I get to FL I wont be driving too much (no snow, etc!). Would love to get some tips here before I get back to the dealer. Thanks in advance for any input or suggestions!
 
1) Make sure you actually need new tires. At 40k on a rental, you probably do, but still worth a check.
2) Don't buy from the dealer.
3) Tirerack.com has tons of tires with detailed specs, owner surveys, and objective testing.
4) In a 205/55/16 for warm weather, quiet driving here are some top-rated choices by both TireRack and ConsumerReports (all are recommended by CR):

Michelin Defender
Yokohama Avid Ascend
Michelin Primacy MXV4
Continental PureContact
 
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Kumho Ecsta LX Platinum
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Continental Extreme Contact DWS

We've had a set of the Kumhos and 2 sets of the Continentals on our cars and they are both excellent tires.
 
If he wants a quiet tire in warm Florida, no reason to go for a performance (or higher) tire. Touring is probably the best type.
 
Thanks everyone for all your suggestions!

If I buy from Tirerack.com, do you suggest using their recommended installers also? It seems that the ones on their list all have different prices for the same service...
 
I went up a size in the Primacy and it doesn't rub and has lasted now almost 50,000 miles and super quiet still. Lots of tread left. You'll get slightly more roll with the bigger tire, obviously, but the ride is like night and day in comparison. I wouldn't take the stock tire size if the set was free.
 
If there is a discount tire in your area I highly recommend them. The store near me has the best customer service I've seen, far and above any other tire shop. They price match as well, just keep in mind their advertised prices on tires include shipping.

Robotaz - exactly what size tires are you running, and do you have any photos?
 
Tirerack for user reviews. Discount Tire to buy. Go here to find an installer http://www.gsp9700.com/search/findgsp9700.cfm.

There will always be a trade-off with tires. Either excellent grip but poor thread life and noise qualities or poor grip but long life and quieter tire; softer vs harder rubber compound. I 2nd Orangutan's list to start and the Primacy WILL be my next tire.
 
I never have, and likely never will, buy Michelin. Way too much much money, for not so much more tire. Keep in mind there are a few decent brands that Tire Rack does not carry.
 
I never have, and likely never will, buy Michelin. Way too much much money, for not so much more tire. Keep in mind there are a few decent brands that Tire Rack does not carry.
I too have never bought into Michelin (or the Bridgestone and Goodyear of the like) b/c they are expensive but I do believe they cost the part for a reason. It not just their threads pattern/design but rather their compound/composition that makes them expensive. I've usually stuck at the budget/bang for the buck range (Falkens, Kumhos, Cooper, and some others) but now I'm ready to move on up to a quality touring tire that suite my needs for this car: quite/comfy and longer tread life at the expenses of cost. Everything else is a distant 3.


Another good place to buy is the internet. Once you know which tire and size you want, just fruggle it. I don’t remember the name but there is a store front that sells for slight cheaper (+s/h) than Discount tire and is highly rated.
 
A good read for the OP and anyone considering tires to educate yourself.
http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg2.html

I also find Black Friday to be a good time to buy tires. I bought Kumho from Discount Tires during last Black Friday and they had an additional $50 sale (retailer discount) on top of whatever manufacture rebate was running at the time. Couple of years back Tire Rack also had (and stated that they ‘might’ do it again) annual sale where it was REALLY cheap but this is not guaranteed nor consistent. I would LOVE to catch that sale again but my guest is it probably won’t happen unless they are overstocked.
 
Tirerack for user reviews. Discount Tire to buy. Go here to find an installer http://www.gsp9700.com/search/findgsp9700.cfm.

There will always be a trade-off with tires. Either excellent grip but poor thread life and noise qualities or poor grip but long life and quieter tire; softer vs harder rubber compound. I 2nd Orangutan's list to start and the Primacy WILL be my next tire.



This past Black Friday, went to Discount Tire & got 215/50/17 Arizonian Silver Editions. They are less expensive, have a treadwear warranty and I haven't had any issues with grip or noise. They are made by Kelley Springfield, and I have seen through experience that Kelleys are more resistant to tread separation than a lot of better-known tire manufacturers.
 
Regarding Michelin, I am not the type to buy stuff by brand name usually. However, I've bought several new Hondas over the past few years and they all came with Michelins that were super smooth and lasted a very long time. Because of that, I decided to try the Primacy on the 5 when it only had 95 miles on it. I hated the Toyos. Now I have a Mustang that came with Michelins as well. All I can say is that Michelins made me into a tire snob.

That said, every maker has cheaper, crappier tires. And, every vehicle will perform differently and eat tires differently. It's not all apples to apples when comparing a tire brand or model of tire. So far though, all of the Michelins I've had over the past 6-7 years have been amazing.

Tire Rack says the correct size is 205/50-17. The Michelin site says they don't come in that size, but do come in 215/50-17, so that would be what's on mine. I can't take a picture of it outside the garage, but I'll try to snap one tonight while it's in the garage. I do recall seeing my tires on mine after they were installed and thinking to myself how silly the car looked before. The OEM tires are just too small for the van body in my opinion.

*EDIT: I forgot to mention that I bought a set of Michelin LTX MS/2 on my old standard cab F150, and it went from a slipping, sliding POS to a road hugging beast. I paid almost $800 for the set, but there's no way I would take them off and go with something else after the transformation I saw. Keep in mind I've been slapping random brands on this truck since 1992 and 297,000 miles ago, so I definitely know the spectrum of performances to witness from that truck. The Michelins destroy everything else I've had on there, from Goodyear to Cooper to Falken, etc.
 
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Continental DWS. We put them on our Mazda5 and they are wonderful. Quiet, comfortable and very grippy.
 
This is interesting - was checking out the Michelin tires per Orangutan's post and on Discount Tire's site, the Defenders are cheaper and warrantied for 90K miles vs the Primacy for 60K miles?

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/filterTireProducts.do?vid=020257&yr=2012&cs=205&ar=55&rd=16&counter=2&sw=false&tt=false&fcb=Michelin&fcpr=*&fcsr=*&fclr=*&x=35&y=9

looks like there's a $70 rebate on these now too

Just keep in mind that the higher the mileage guarantee, the heavier the bias towards plastic over rubber is. They get more mileage by increasing plastics and rubber alternatives. Historically, that leads to tires that get harder and noisier over time. For some, mileage may be the only concern, but if you want a nice ride and good mileage, be sure and research reviews from people with similar vehicles and lots of miles on the tires you're looking at.

Back when 60K miles was an incredibly long life, ca. 1990 or so, I had a set of Michelins that were just touted as high mileage. After maybe 10-15K miles they got loud and hard, eventually being replaced before tires with 45K warranties. I did some research and found out that they are soft at first because the rubber is more prominent in the outer layers. As they wear, the plasticky junk layers that buy you mileage are revealed. Obviously I have seen a change in 60K mile Michelins as I am currently touting them for the 5, but I'm just saying that I'd be suspicious of 90K tires without a lot of user review backup.
 
Like Robotaz said, the Defender is made of harder rubber, resulting in a longer life at the expense of ultimate traction. Here's what CR says:

CR's Take on Michelin Defender
70/100 (highest in category of all-season tires)
A top rated all season tire with few shortcomings.
Highs: An impressive balance of very good dry and wet braking, handling, and resistance to hydroplaning. Excellent tread life. Quiet and has low rolling resistance for good fuel economy.
Lows: A tire with few shortcomings.

CR's Take on Michelin Primacy
70/100 (highest in category of performance all-season tires)
A top rated performance H speed rated all season tire.
Highs: Low rolling resistance for good fuel economy. Impressive all season performance and long tread life. Quiet and comfortable.
Lows: Few vices.

All that said, the Primacy scored "Excellent" in Noise while the Defender scored "Very Good" in Noise. TireRack surveys say the same thing, that the Primacy is scored slightly better for noise.
 
I would try the Defender if I wasn't already convinced of the Primacy. It's worth the extra money to know what I'm getting, but with good reviews, I'd feel pretty confident in the Defender as well. Try them out OP, and let us know how you like them. They'll blow the Toyos away, that's for sure.
 

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