GI: Projector Headlights.

[SNike05]

Don't think so. Most cars that have projectors as low beams don't have high beam projectors. At least, unless I'm retarded. Which has happened before.

Keep in mind that projectors were originally designed for xenon bulbs. No such thing as high beam projectors that are separate. Either the car will have a projector for low beams and regular halogen bulb without projector for high beam or there will be one projector that will have bi-xenon bulb which is high and low in one projector.

In my opinion if these projector lights are made they should be made for a xenon bulb or not made at all. I will explain why. Projectors have only one purpose which is to give better and more uniformed light output. The last generation Mazda Protege (sedan) according to many reputable auto magazines has the best light output in its class (distance, formation etc.) not only that it has better light output than most high luxury cars like the Audi (comparision was done with Audi TT). If a projector light is designed and is made for a halogen bulb which seems to me what people are going for nothing will be gained except for a little show. It is even possible that some light output will be lost compared to what we have right now.

HID kits are becoming cheaper as time goes by and they have been made illegal in NA for the sole reason that they cause glare to oncoming traffic when used in non-xenon bulb housings, which is very dangerous. If an HID projector light is designed rather then halogen bulb projecter then this problem will go away for alteast us Protege owners. Plus we will be able to benefit from the advantages of xenon lighting without causing harm.

I hope I haven't offended anyone but this is what I think.

 

[N2OInferno]

Know what's really odd? Acura uses HID bulbs in halogen lenses. they shield the top of the bulb though. Friend of mine has a CL with HID and we got into an argument basically exactly what you're talking about. So we check with Acura. Part number for the halogen and HID headlight are exactly the same. Just different bulbs. Either crappy design by them to cut costs, or the shield blocks all the glare and probably cuts down on light output too I'd imagine..

The thing about our lights is that yes, they were tested and projected 600 feet in front of the car.. But it doesn't LOOK that way because the light immediately on the ground is brighter in a car that has HID. So beside the fact that ours have been proven to be better, it just doesn't appear that way.

by the time these get made though, I'll probably have a different car, lol.

 

[SNike05]

or the shield blocks all the glare and probably cuts down on light output too I'd imagine..

Yes, you are right on the dot

The thing about our lights is that yes, they were tested and projected 600 feet in front of the car.. But it doesn't LOOK that way because the light immediately on the ground is brighter in a car that has HID. So beside the fact that ours have been proven to be better, it just doesn't appear that way.

I have driven many many cars old and new and I am very happy with the lightup at night. Its uniform, bright no hot spots i can see what I want to see. Have you compared to other cars don't you see a great difference?

by the time these get made though, I'll probably have a different car, lol.

true dat, but I might just retrofit some.

 

[ahb11m]

In my opinion if these projector lights are made they should be made for a xenon bulb or not made at all. I will explain why. Projectors have only one purpose which is to give better and more uniformed light output.

this is true

there is also more to projector lights than what most think

the difference in the lights is actually do do with where the aim is...

hmm this is really hard to explain...

basically the lens is made to a power and asphericity for a lights bright spot to be at a certain point....

if the light isn't in the correct spot the light output won't be focused correctly, and therefore won't be effective

i would imagine your friends Acura, has a spacing in place to ensure that the light output is from the same location in the headlight assembly

 

[capnsavem]

whoa... asphericity.... fuk. (uhm)

this is true

there is also more to projector lights than what most think

the difference in the lights is actually do do with where the aim is...

hmm this is really hard to explain...

basically the lens is made to a power and asphericity for a lights bright spot to be at a certain point....

if the light isn't in the correct spot the light output won't be focused correctly, and therefore won't be effective

i would imagine your friends Acura, has a spacing in place to ensure that the light output is from the same location in the headlight assembly

 

[ahb11m]

hehe, special lens design, meaning they can make a higher powered lens, without making it be as bulky as what it should be.. basically

 

[vknid]

you can add my name to the list.

 

[modiggs]

I'm in

 

[glyph]

can we get hold of this headlight?

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109448

that looks photoshopped to me.

Rishie, please please please please (continue for one hour) make these!

 

[igdrasil]

Theres one way to do something like that.

This is what I been thinking for a while, since I dont use much the high beam on the P5, I will try it on mine using an aftermarket Fog Lights kit that uses lenses and H3 bulbs. Its a custom job so, aiming will be a little tricky.

I also know that it may look getto from the engine bay, but...whatever, stock headlights are horrible on the rear side.

 

[N2OInferno]

fog lights aim completely different than headlights so even if you do get it done, you'll just have lights with a very short beam pattern. driving lights would be better.

 

[quatelate]

Dude Are We Ever Gonna Get These?

 

[RenzoMSP]

Dude Are We Ever Gonna Get These?

Nevaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar!(spin)

 

[capnsavem]

... but it doesn't hurt to pretend (laugh)

 

[RenzoMSP]

bored bump

 

[323Sport]

I made Bi-xenon projector headlights for my car........ thread located at: http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1792541#post1792541

 

[Magus]

I have important vendor information regarding HIDtech. Before I bought my Mazda Protege5, I visited www.newtiburon.com. I was recently reading an excellent post on HID lighting and heard this from:

Wagdaddy
NT.com's "HID Guru"

"I'm trying not to say anything bad about them. Sean is real nice and treated me very well. He gets a lot of my business from parts. I have seen numerous retrofits since the time I recomended you and I will just say I was not at all pleased. Yours may have come out nice but I see they didn't do anything to your light to cut glare from your housings. I had to paint the inner housing around the lights to cut the glare out since chrome is so shinny. I saw a few pics of yours and they looked good. Personally though (in general) I have seen better retrofits. HIDtech actually has a pretty bad reputation as well in the HID community for poor craftsmanship and not backing their work. They did a nice job on your lights but I can't say that about 99% of the rest of their work. I have a few friends who have had retros done by them and whew, not good. So, their quality is not consistent. I am very glad that you are happy. I'm aslo glad you didn't turn out to be a horror story. I was affraid that after my recomendation, they would jack up your lights and you would come to me and say "thanks a lot Andy! F*CKER!!" Hehehe."

I personally think either going to do a 323Sport's Audi S4 conversion for P5
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=51253

Or doing something similar using Mazda Speeds or regular Proteges headlights

Though I would like 323Sport to fill us in on how he got a bi-xenon to work with just a low beam on the P5. I noticed on some ballast there are two places to plug in a connector and was not sure if that is how it worked. Though I figure it shouldn't be a problem with the bi-halgeon proteges(though could be wrong). Also did you make your own rely circuit to protect you car? I not sure if got that off the old audi or not (should have a rely and fuse in a wiring harness). I found that it will work without, but over time the kick back voltage from when you turn on the lights will mess you car up(wiring harness, ecu). The rely circuit only allows the kick back voltage to to find the battery (which is fine).

Either way, the housing needs to be black as to cut down on the amount of glare (that and it looks better ). Though I wondering if the tint job on the above protege cuts down on the amount of light put out or if it's polarized film used (cause it looks cool ;D)?

Maybe the Mazda3 headlights could be adapted but at $200+ a piece I do not think there completely worth it.


The
article on HID


MAGUS (p5blue)

 

[323Sport]

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I personally think either going to do a 323Sport's Audi S4 conversion for P5
Though I would like 323Sport to fill us in on how he got a bi-xenon to work with just a low beam on the P5.

tried to answer your questions in my thread.... (there were a lot of PM's also so i thought id post the text there.....)
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1800843#post1800843

 

[Witchdoktor]

might be of interest to some:

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112938

 

[BENZMX5]

Projectors. mmmm...

Count me in. I want um.