? for FL members

Matthew

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seriously, im curious about this:

barring circumstances that leave you immobile, like being in a wheelchair or something, how does every hurricane bring death?

they know like 3-7 days in advance that a storm is coming, and its not like the tsunami where suddenly there is a giant wave, right?

im asking seriously because ive never lived in the areas affected by hurricanes...i mean, is it from people just being morons like surfing or something, or does it come on that quick?
 
People go outside afterwards when they shouldn't. Run into trees etc. Don't evacuate in flood prone areas either.
 
People don't take the storms seriously. The water is more of a problem than the wind. Storm surge can cause widespread flooding and death. Some think they can ride out the storm or just don't have another place to go. The surfers seem to fare well. Although its just crazy to be out in hurricane surf. But there are no real waves in Florida.

If you live in a mobile home or frame structure, its wise to get out before the storm hits. Those things don't hold up well to hurricanes. Hurricanes pack a wallop, heavy winds, rain, and storm surge. They can also cause tornadoes to occur.
 
It's very similar to earthquakes, I lived in L.A., briefly. The earthquake did not scare me at all, the building, not a big deal, but the gas line running under the house that could rupture and blow me to kingdom come? That scared the Bejesus out of me. Same thing with hurricanes. Most buildings down here in South Florida must meet certain code. If I remember correctly, they need to handle 175mph, sustained. It's not the squalls of wind or rain that scare me, it's that small tornado that rips through the trailer park across the street, that flings debris, like cars and small (under 25feet) palm trees at me and my house. People don't die from the wind or rain. They die from the 2x4 that the wind picked up and impaled them with. Or like pimpprotege69 said, people go outside and have trees fall on them. The flooding really doesn't kill too many people down here, the effects do, malaria, etc. One of the most important casualties is usually the flood mixed with down-ed powerlines. We, generally speaking, don't have underground powerlines. The whole dig 10 feet and hit water thing. But it only takes 35mph sustained winds to knock a tree onto powerlines and have those powerlines fall into a puddle that someone is walking through, barefoot. WHAM!!!! BAM!!!! Like the old batman tv show.

Just my 2 cents
 
I like the best way we pick off the stupid ones. They step on a live wire.

I grew up in CA, and was there for the 1989 quake in the bay area. The east bay will be ****** when the big one hits, and it is the city and state's fault. All along the Hayward Fault, they put the police and fire stations, hospitals, apartment buildings, you name it. All on the fault.
 
i see, i guess that makes sense now. sorry for sounding stupid but like i said i couldnt figure out how people could really be that stupid to not take something like that seriously.

of course then you have the reporters running around in the s*** too, theyre bound to bite it at some point.
 
look at the waste of time the coast guard had in new orleans. 50 people stuck on their roofs. Mandatory evacuations, and they stayed. We have to pay for the cost involved with plucking them off their roofs. Should have just left them there until the water receeded.
 
Falling trees usually account for a couple deaths per hurricane. I also remember last year a person died and many people were injured using chainsaws trying to clear debris.
 
SpicyMchaggis said:
stupidity usually brings death. much like anything else.

2 people died in south florida after katrina because they lost power and decided to run the generator inside the house the whole night. (deadhorse
 
YellowMP5 said:
2 people died in south florida after katrina because they lost power and decided to run the generator inside the house the whole night. (deadhorse


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its mostly the dumb ppl that walk outside and are running around in the flooded streets and theres power lines down.
 
Florida has a lot of elderly folks, and elderly folks do not think as clearly as young folks. They get confused and don't understand what to you or I might seem obvious. Florida has a lot of poor folks, who cannot afford to flee whenever a hurricane approaches, and cannot afford to move to an unknown town to escape hurricanes forever. Many people do not know about evacuation shelters, and neither can they afford to get there. It's easy to criticize people for being dumb, but pretend you're 85 years old, can't drive or see very well and have no money, and see how easily it is for you to cope with a hurricane that by all accounts will not hit you, only to find out it swerves suddenly, misses its "target" by 100 miles, and hits a completely "safe area" with devastating effects. Then ask yourself how long you'll live because your medication goes bad because you have no electricity to keep it refrigerated. Dumb people are dumb people but most people die in hurricanes because life is cruel and unfair, and not because they're morons. Luckily you don't have to worry about that because you're young, rich and brilliant, and will never grow old. (and yes, fleeing costs money, even to an evacuation shelter!)
 
no i said aside from being old or in a wheelchair etc...it was meant to target people our age etc.
 
registering said:
Dumb people are dumb people but most people die in hurricanes because life is cruel and unfair, and not because they're morons. Luckily you don't have to worry about that because you're young, rich and brilliant, and will never grow old. (and yes, fleeing costs money, even to an evacuation shelter!)

Sweet...

Surviving many o' hurricane in the last 15 years, (including, yes, andrew in '92, the storm of the century '93???, surfing bertha and charles in '96 in daytona (awesome by the way, 16'-18' chop with a three hour paddle out, sorry), Irene in '99, frances and Jeanne from last year (in boynton, so not so bad) and this one, so far this year, I would like to assume that I can speak from experience. Relatively speaking, I am young, 27 this year, just about to settle down with wife and kids kinda thing. I'll probably never be rich unless I win the lotto. And if all possible, I'll never grow old. Should I not live forever, I'll shoot heroine up when I'm 80, just so I don't have to be a burden to my kin. But through these hurricanes of which I have lost MUCH personal property, including waste from no electricity, I have still made it. Why is that? Luck, karma, "right area", etc. But you still need a head on your shoulders. Where I live, is the retirement capital of the world, Tamarac, Coral Springs border. There are more kings point buses on the roads of this town than that of the entire Broward community transit. Yet, even the elderly and the handicapped have places to go and people to care for them, in the event of a natural disaster. When I did the volunteer work down in homestead, after Andrew, we WERE handing out not only food, ice and water, but medicine directly to what was left of people's homes. As for the poor there are two reasons why people are poor; abandonment and lack of education. If poor people had education, they would get better jobs than making my hamburgers from McDs. And its not like the storm surge really kills poor people. How many poor people live near the beach? Better yet, how many poor people live up there in Boca Raton by you, with an average annual household income of $175,000.00?? The problem is that people do not take these storms seriously. On the way up to my parents-in-law last thursday, about 5:00pm, the cars on the highway had to slow to 35mph b/c we couldn't see ten feet in front. I was one of those idiots. And trust me when I say that there were alot of these idiots on the road. People were still on 595 at 8:30pm that night. A truck even tipped on a "flyover" from 441 to 595. These are the idiots I am referring to. The idiot who says to himself, "hmmmm, its lightening up, let me go stand under my tree." and bam it falls over and kills him, well, so be it. Like you said, life is cruel and unfair, but as darwin said, "survival of the fittest". People, in general across the world, have a tendancy to say, "it will never happen to me." Those are famous last words for ones not prepared. Do you remember the fable about the grasshopper and the ants?
And not to mention, even if you're homeless in south florida (and there are alot) we are so inundated with hurricane coverage and preparations that EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE knows what you should and should not do. If (figuratively) you neglect these warnings from all forms of media, then I consider you an idiot. Because your the one that will say, after the storm, "how were we supposed to know?" Hypocrites are idiots, too!!!!

P.S. I will take the brilliant complement, though, tylol
 
did anyone in south florida watch channel 7 (fox) after the hurricane and mitzel was getting an interview from some guy from LA who was "riding" a tipped over light pole. after she asked him if he heard of any warnings saying not to touch downed power lines and stuff, he said "no". how can you possibly not hear that on tv. they only talk about every 2 minutes during 24hour a day for 3-4 days storm coverage. what a ******* dork. i was waiting for him to get electrocuted while they were filming him on top of the pole, lol
 
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