Flat Foot Shifting
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also, the only reason the cobalt has a faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile, well the article i read had the speed's time ridiculously slow for some reason, is because of the launch control and no lift shift as well...
being able to drop the clutch at any rpm and have the best possible launch is quite an advantage to have, especially when you dont know how to drive.
being able to drop the clutch at any rpm and have the best possible launch is quite an advantage to have, especially when you dont know how to drive.
you're missing the point. the guys that take cars around nurburgring (especially the ones who "rate" the cars) are probably better drivers than you or I. I sincerely doubt that aids designed for inexperienced drivers are going to help the time all that much. the turbo on the MS3 spools extremely quickly from what I have noticed. my boost gauge could pretty much be used as a TPS display.
The launch control and no lift shift is so that little 18 year old kids can take their brand new cobalts that their parents just bought for them to the local drag strip and run what the magazines say they are supposed to run.
The launch control and no lift shift is so that little 18 year old kids can take their brand new cobalts that their parents just bought for them to the local drag strip and run what the magazines say they are supposed to run.
Semi Pro driver? I'm assuming you're referring to the time the cobalt set at the ring. The driver is quite familiar with racing the cobalt in SCCA competition (and winning it) as well as extremely familiar with the ring. Driver advantage goes a long ways on an 8 mile course, so I'm pretty confident that a good chunk of that time is simply the good ol' driver mod.
Smaller track, Motortrends lightning lap, puts the cobalt 3 seconds ahead of the speed 3 on a 4 mile run. Thus the ring times should only be about 6-8 seconds apart at best. Factor in the drivers...and well, there ya go. Plus, I do believe there is a part of the ring which will alllow the cobalt to reach it's 160+ mph top speed whereas the speed 3 is governed lower than that.
There is no doubt that on a pure performance basis chevy hit the mark, as their new cobalt is that good. I'd never trade my speed 3 for one though. Of course, that doesn't mean I won't be lining up to pickup the 'new' speed 3 that's already been seen testing at the ring. I cannot imaging Mazda not putting out a product that will surpase the cobalts performance, what would be the point of that
MikeHTally
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Sorry, guys. Not me. I figure on keeping this car for a long time with no major issues. A destroyed clutch/transmission is not in my plans. I'll do it every now and then, but not very often.
Power shifting you say?? hmmm somehow I don't think any car can take that if it doesn't have a beefed up after market clutch or tranny with a splatter shield. Not really suprised...
Yes same as flat foot shifting, meaning shifting without letting off the gas.
Today on my test drive the salesman was having a blast in the passanger seat. The MS3 GT kinda let me down off the line and normal agressive shiting thru 4th. Felt like the boost dropped to much. Then I did what you guys call "flat shifting" and the car came alive.
Flat shift = WOT through the gears
Speed shift = WOT through the gears, no clutch
Flat shift = WOT through the gears
Speed shift = WOT through the gears, no clutch
Shifting would make things a lot better.
The turbo in the MS3 spools really fast, maybe you drove a lemon.
Oh geez... ok WOT during shifts. Better?
Yeah, im really hoping I drove a lemon. I talked to the salesman today he was joking to this other younger guy and said "yeah hes gonna buy your car". WTF? Then the guy said "yeah, I been driving this one home as a demo for 3 weeks". F that!!! Them dudes probably thrashed that particular car.
If not, then the lag on the MS3 sucks. What size turbo is it? Ayone ever try going hybrid? Small impellar w/ larger shell? Hell, I dont even know if ppl are still doing that. That was back in the 90's when we started doing that.
FMOS Racing
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You MUST powershift these cars to get the best quarter mile times. The ECU re-opens the throttle blade too slowly if you let off the gas.
+3 mph and -4 tenths in the quarter from powershifting.
I have 75 quartermile passes on mine over just a few months, practically all powershifted. No issues so far. However, it is practically impossible to powershift the 2-3 shift with the stock shifter mounts and motor mount. Too inconsistent, too easy to hit first.
+3 mph and -4 tenths in the quarter from powershifting.
I have 75 quartermile passes on mine over just a few months, practically all powershifted. No issues so far. However, it is practically impossible to powershift the 2-3 shift with the stock shifter mounts and motor mount. Too inconsistent, too easy to hit first.
is 14 seconds flat on a stock car not fast enough for you? if that's the case, you should be on another forum.
FMOS Racing
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I changed the motor mount and carved down the stock shifter mount bushing standoffs at the same time so I can't really comment on the two things separately. Guess I could've gotten by with just the mount, but I was on a roll in the garage.
14 flat is an impressive ETA for any stock compact car. the one I drove just didnt feel anywhere near 14 flat. I would say high 14's. Like I posted before though, seems like this car might have been beaten on. They also dont usually let the car idle after any test drives. I dont know, im hoping it was just that particular car.
