final: 17x8 vs 17x9 and tire size?

[controlo]

<div class="bbWrapper">i&#039;m ready to pull the plug on enkei rpf1 but idk if i want 17x8 or 17x9 and what tire size...<br /> <br /> if i get 17x9, they&#039;re gonna be silver. if 17x8, i can get bronze or black. i have a sunlight silver with stock suspension, btw. i&#039;ll probably lower it down the road.<br /> <br /> i&#039;m pretty set on dunlop star specs. 235/40/17 weight 24lbs where as 225/45/17 weight 26lbs. the 17x8 weigh less and are going to be easier for the car to rotate than the 17x9.<br /> <br /> i&#039;m not into the whole, lets get wheels and tires that stick out 5 inches look. i want flush.<br /> <br /> swampass&#039;s setup looks cool but they don&#039;t make the star specs in a 50/17.<br /> <br /> (help)<br /> <br /> indecisiveness FTL</div>

 

[H3br3w_Ham3r]

<div class="bbWrapper">I finally made up my mind. 17x8 +48 OZ Allegerrita HLT&#039;s with a 225/45 tire. That way if I want to go beefier with the tire later I could go all the way to a 255 but I will need some serious fender rolling for that. My other choice was the RPF1 like you said but I don&#039;t want another black rim or a silver rim. I can get these in a gun metal color which I think will look good on my car. The RPF1&#039;s are almost identical weight wise but the OZ&#039;s are a little more expensive. I scored a deal on tires so I figured the extra cost of rims would hurt. The main reason I didn&#039;t want the Enkeis is because a lot of people have those in my area. The racers and auto crossers anyway. I&#039;ve seen them on Evos, Subarus, Miatas, CRX&#039;s, ect. If that weren&#039;t the case I would&#039;ve chose the Enkei&#039;s.<br /> <br /> But ya indecisiveness FTL! I&#039;ve changed my mind from 18x8 to 18x8.5 to 17x7 to 17x7.5 and now to a 17x8. I think I&#039;m finally happy with the decision but tomorrow is a new day and something else might tempt me.<br /> <br /> For your tire question:<br /> I&#039;d go with a 235/40 if the type of tire I was getting came in that size. If you want a different size you can always switch brands unless you are set on the Dunlop tire. There are a few tires in that exact performance range that are great. I would also stick with the 8 inch rim if you want to stay flush and avoid rolling your fenders. Also less weight! And if you are going 235/40 why have a 9 inch wide wheel? Only thing you will miss with the 8 inch tire is you can&#039;t go to 255&#039;s on the Star specs. That would stick out too much for what you want though.<br /> <br /> I&#039;d say stick with an 8 inch wide wheel to save on a bit of money and weight and go with the 235/40&#039;s. If you see that you have enough clearance you can always move to a 245 later when you burn your 235&#039;s up (flame2). BTW the 235/40&#039;s are going to look very small and leave a big wheel gap if you are not lowered.</div>

 

[CnoTataymo]

<div class="bbWrapper">Why not go with a 235/45/17 tire? It&#039;s closer to the stock tire size. Plus, going with a lower profile will just make the gearing shorter since the sidewalls are shorter. Just a thought.</div>

 

[H3br3w_Ham3r]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 25334" data-quote="CnoTataymo" data-source="post: 4719210" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=4719210" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-4719210">CnoTataymo said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Why not go with a 235/45/17 tire? It&#039;s closer to the stock tire size. Plus, going with a lower profile will just make the gearing shorter since the sidewalls are shorter. Just a thought. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> He might not be able to get that size for the tires he looking at. I was looking for 235/45 for the tires I wanted. Unfortunately Hoosier makes no 235 tires in any rim diameter. So I settled for 225/45&#039;s.</div>

 

[Yoo Shin]

<div class="bbWrapper">I&#039;m getting Direzzas in 235/45 17&quot; for RPFs in 17x9. Tirerack has them at $130 each. Great value for what&#039;s quickly becoming the tire to have.</div>

 

[controlo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 31890" data-quote="Yoo Shin" data-source="post: 4719468" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=4719468" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-4719468">Yoo Shin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;m getting Direzzas in 235/45 17&quot; for RPFs in 17x9. Tirerack has them at $130 each. Great value for what&#039;s quickly becoming the tire to have. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> ya the star spec doesn&#039;t come in 235/45 . And the 225/45 weighs 2lbs more per tire.</div>

 

[mr_mazda329]

<div class="bbWrapper">Do the 17x9&#039;s . Dopeness. But cheack out onlinetires.com for really nice prices. Shipping is cheaper and theres no taxes.</div>

 

[controlo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 31890" data-quote="Yoo Shin" data-source="post: 4719468" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=4719468" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-4719468">Yoo Shin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;m getting Direzzas in 235/45 17&quot; for RPFs in 17x9. Tirerack has them at $130 each. Great value for what&#039;s quickly becoming the tire to have. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> man, i just hate how they weight 27lbs vs. 24lbs for the 235/40&#039;s<br /> <br /> the kumho xs weighs 23lbs for the 235/45/17 and 21lbs for 215/45/17<br /> <br /> hmmmmmmm.....</div>

 

[mr_mazda329]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 37067" data-quote="controlo" data-source="post: 4719659" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=4719659" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-4719659">controlo said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> man, i just hate how they weight 27lbs vs. 24lbs for the 235/40&#039;s<br /> <br /> the kumho xs weighs 23lbs for the 235/45/17 and 21lbs for 215/45/17<br /> <br /> hmmmmmmm..... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> 23lbs is light. stock potenzas are like 24lbs. Plus the XS grip up nicely.</div>

 

[Nliiitend1]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 37067" data-quote="controlo" data-source="post: 4719659" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=4719659" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-4719659">controlo said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> man, i just hate how they weight 27lbs vs. 24lbs for the 235/40&#039;s<br /> <br /> the kumho xs weighs 23lbs for the 235/45/17 and 21lbs for 215/45/17<br /> <br /> hmmmmmmm..... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Get the 235/45 Kumhos.<br /> <br /> They&#039;re a better dry tire than the Star Specs anyway...</div>

 

[H3br3w_Ham3r]

<div class="bbWrapper">A set of Hoosier r-comp weigh 20 lbs in 225/45 trim LOL. Good luck with those on the street though. Kumhos are probably your best bet.</div>

 

[controlo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 49027" data-quote="Nliiitend1" data-source="post: 4720478" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=4720478" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-4720478">Nliiitend1 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Get the 235/45 Kumhos.<br /> <br /> They&#039;re a better dry tire than the Star Specs anyway... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> i&#039;ve been comparing the two a lot and ya, they do have better dry traction. BUT, they have lower tread wear rating. BUT they have 11/32 as opposed to 10/32. haha.</div>

 

[Yoo Shin]

<div class="bbWrapper">I like the Kumhos also, but wet performance is important to me and sounds like you&#039;re looking for something that will do both also controlo.<br /> <br /> I&#039;ve debated 245/40, but don&#039;t want to loose gearing. I had 245/40s on my WRX and felt that I lost gearing, and a friend of mine with that size on his STI really noticed the gearing loss.<br /> <br /> 245/45 is a more comon size but that&#039;d be a challenge to fit even with the stock suspension.<br /> <br /> Edit: You said you do want Star Specs but they don&#039;t come in 235/45?<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&amp;tireModel=Direzza+Sport+Z1+Star+Spec&amp;partnum=345WR7Z1SS&amp;vehicleSearch=false&amp;fromCompare1=yes" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...5WR7Z1SS&amp;vehicleSearch=false&amp;fromCompare1=yes</a></div>

 

[Nliiitend1]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 37067" data-quote="controlo" data-source="post: 4720630" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=4720630" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-4720630">controlo said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> i&#039;ve been comparing the two a lot and ya, they do have better dry traction. BUT, they have lower tread wear rating. BUT they have 11/32 as opposed to 10/32. haha. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> The lower treadwear rating needs to be taken with a grain of salt, because treadwear ratings are pretty much manufacturer specific and can&#039;t really be used to compare tires across different brands.</div>

 

[controlo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 31890" data-quote="Yoo Shin" data-source="post: 4720956" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=4720956" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-4720956">Yoo Shin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I like the Kumhos also, but wet performance is important to me and sounds like you&#039;re looking for something that will do both also controlo.<br /> <br /> I&#039;ve debated 245/40, but don&#039;t want to loose gearing. I had 245/40s on my WRX and felt that I lost gearing, and a friend of mine with that size on his STI really noticed the gearing loss.<br /> <br /> 245/45 is a more comon size but that&#039;d be a challenge to fit even with the stock suspension.<br /> <br /> Edit: You said you do want Star Specs but they don&#039;t come in 235/45?<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Dunlop&amp;tireModel=Direzza+Sport+Z1+Star+Spec&amp;partnum=345WR7Z1SS&amp;vehicleSearch=false&amp;fromCompare1=yes" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...5WR7Z1SS&amp;vehicleSearch=false&amp;fromCompare1=yes</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> yea, i knew they came in 235/45. i must&#039;ve gotten confused. i&#039;ve been looking at so many tire/wheel options lately. haha. they&#039;re 27lbs though!</div>

 

[controlo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 49027" data-quote="Nliiitend1" data-source="post: 4721309" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=4721309" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-4721309">Nliiitend1 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The lower treadwear rating needs to be taken with a grain of salt, because treadwear ratings are pretty much manufacturer specific and can&#039;t really be used to compare tires across different brands. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> hmm... i think i might just go with the kumho&#039;s. they&#039;re lighter in the size i want and they supposedly have better dry traction. although they&#039;re reported to have horrible wet traction. i live in southern california so i don&#039;t really feel like that will be a problem.</div>

 

[controlo]

<div class="bbWrapper">i think everyone that has the 17x9 setup is running 235/40, though. not sure if i&#039;d rub with 235/45...</div>

 

[H3br3w_Ham3r]

<div class="bbWrapper">I made my decision today! Got an awesome deal on tires so I went with a better rim. Got a set of Forged SSR&#039;s 17x8 +48. Gona be running 225/45&#039;s. I don&#039;t see any reason to go to a 9 inch wide rim. If you lower the car at all you will rub like no other.</div>

 

[controlo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 61989" data-quote="H3br3w_Ham3r" data-source="post: 4721681" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=4721681" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-4721681">H3br3w_Ham3r said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I made my decision today! Got an awesome deal on tires so I went with a better rim. Got a set of Forged SSR&#039;s 17x8 +48. Gona be running 225/45&#039;s. I don&#039;t see any reason to go to a 9 inch wide rim. If you lower the car at all you will rub like no other. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> nice! what kind of tire did you get? i&#039;m most likely going to get the kumho&#039;s. they&#039;re overall diameter is 25.4 vs. the stock potenzas 25.7. so that&#039;s probably the closest to stock gearing i&#039;ll find, right?<br /> <br /> that&#039;s for 235/45/17</div>

 

[controlo]

<div class="bbWrapper">i wonder what would be more flush, a 17x8.5 +40 or a 17x9 +45.<br /> <br /> idk anything. haha.</div>