S
serAph
2words said:
eh, i kinda agree- cept I'd rather get a car thats just as fast for $20,000 less. Oh - and the cobra's a DOHC supercharged. The 'vettes a 9.6billion litre pushrod. Hello! Welcome to the 21st century, GM!
fast'n'ricey :)
- Thread starter TStar
- Start date
eh, i kinda agree- cept I'd rather get a car thats just as fast for $20,000 less. Oh - and the cobra's a DOHC supercharged. The 'vettes a 9.6billion litre pushrod. Hello! Welcome to the 21st century, GM!
S
serAph
2words said:
ya - the vette has a lot more displacement and weighs less. Ford is becoming more and more import-like with their engines. In '05 there will be no more 2valve-per-cylinder engines. THe Gt's will run on 3. But who the hell cares about GT's. If yer goin american, go top of the line, right? I mean f*ck - they arent expensive or anything.
I don't get some of you people. Who cares if an LS1 has 5.7 liter displacement and pushrods. Its putting out 340 horse and 350 ft-lbs at the wheels (STOCK) and getting 27-30 mpg at the same time. Why does it need 4 valves per cylinder or a red-line higher than 6300 rpm?
Last edited:
S
serAph
sm76 said:
you're right. The Corvette is an incredible vehicle, however, theres just something about taking a giant step backwards in engine technology that really leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Anyone who denies the power of a corvette, by the way, needs to learn about a Mr. Dale Earnhardt and how, despite being a folk hero to all those NASCAR fans, also took a team of drivers over to Le Mans and whooped UP in C5-R's. That earned my respect for the Corvettes...
if I was to buy a Cobra or a Corvette tho, I'd so get the Cobra. Every mod you do to that beast equates to at LEAST 20 wheel horsepower.
jflo said:
Ironic you should say that
thats what everyone who drives a Supra and then compares it to an RX7 or an NSX says - that the Supra handles like a Mustang. Hehehe. Trust me, you take a Supra and dump 10k in mods for it and then pit it against a Mustang with 5k of mods on it, and the Mustang will abso-f*cking-lutely own it silly.
Last edited:
MP3skaterNC
JDM *****.
- :
- slotege mp3
serAph said:
Newest issue of HOT ROD the STI ran the 1/4 faster than the 03 cobra. Thats stock for stock buddy. So joe blow in his stock cobra does a stop light race against an sti, the cobra is probably going to spin like hell, and the stil will just grip and go. Highway rolls would be a different story. Mod for mod the cobra would gain more power, but it has 4 more cly than the sti, and cost around 5k more before you add in the gas guzzler taxes. Give me 5k in mods to an STI and I'll be glad to own a stock cobra.
S
serAph
MP3skaterNC said:
hah - you're telling me an STi, with an amateur driver, can run a 12.5? I not only refuse to believe that, but also refuse to believe 1 magazine over about 10 others that would tell you the exact opposite. Plus - who in gods name would ever buy a subaru? Especially one as expensive as an STi. Subaru is second to worst in reliability - second only to Kia. Oh - and thats not a magazine that says that, that was from a government study collecting data from a wide range of car buyers and measured in defects per 100 vehicles sold. The STi is the ideal rally racing car if you ask me, but honestly, there are much better street and track cars out there. Oh - and give me 1.5k in mods to a cobra and Ill mop the floor with a 5k STi. You do realize that a mere intake on a cobra yields slightly over 400 wheel horse power? They restricted the CRAP outta that DOHC 4.6 to keep its HP/Torque within feesable limits by giving it incredibly restrictive intake and exhaust. And god forbid you should slap on a $200 SVT Lightning supercharger pulley - that mod to a stock cobra adds somewhere around 60 wheel horsepower and makes it as fast as the current Viper in the quarter - a car that costs somwhere close to 3 times as much as the Cobra, mind you.
Last edited:
MP3skaterNC
JDM *****.
- :
- slotege mp3
Eh, you come on here trolling, bashing imports, yet you drive a mexican made jetta?
S
serAph
Its a Wolfsburg Edition, and what was made where was clearly marked on the window before I purchased it. Ill have you know that less than 15% of the car was manufactured in Mexico - about 30% less than a normal Jetta. European Car tested my car at a 6.2 0-60 and other mags have tested it around 6.5 or so - so its nothing to sneeze at for a 17k car. (My roommate/hetero-lifemate was my salespersonMP3skaterNC said:
)Oh - and I dont bash imports. I'd never buy domestic. As a matter of fact, I never even liked them until my friend got an '03 cobra. Wanna hear something funny? He's currently Lemon-Lawing it.
Gonna get an '04 Cobra out of it tho.
Last edited:
BlueWolfCry
Member
- :
- 02 LX, 03 MSP
if i had the money i'd tap the STi...but my mom might get one!
S
serAph
BlueWolfCry said:
heh - i say get a 10k 3rd Gen, spend the difference from that and an STi on fixing it up, and you'd have a real street car.
MP3skaterNC
JDM *****.
- :
- slotege mp3
You'd never buy an import?
The 03 Cobra is a beast of a car, noone is arguing that the potential is higher in a fi 4cly car. There is no replacement for displacement, its that simple. A fi 4cly stock for stock can hang with it though given the right driver. I'd like to see the cobra hang with an sti or evo on a road course though. Mustangs are great cars, for going straight, theres no doubt about that, its been proven since the 5.0's, but its not a handling car by any means.
The 03 Cobra is a beast of a car, noone is arguing that the potential is higher in a fi 4cly car. There is no replacement for displacement, its that simple. A fi 4cly stock for stock can hang with it though given the right driver. I'd like to see the cobra hang with an sti or evo on a road course though. Mustangs are great cars, for going straight, theres no doubt about that, its been proven since the 5.0's, but its not a handling car by any means.
S
serAph
MP3skaterNC said:
i edited it - look again
anyway - you'd be surprised at how the Cobra handles despite a.) being a mustang and b.) having 400 foot-pounds of torque. Its on a modified chassis and is, IMO, the best mannered Mustang ever created stock (besides the Cobra-R) in terms of handling. Regardless - someone already brought up the "Mustang vs. Lancer/Evo" at the SVT Performance forum, and sadly, the 03' Cobras are beating Evos and STi's by about 6 seconds per lap. Astonishing, eh? The times are available online for all to see. Ill see if I cant find the link.
MP3skaterNC
JDM *****.
- :
- slotege mp3
Thats pretty interesting. Id like to read that actually.
S
serAph
Links:
about that article...
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=67455&highlight=road+race+evo
and the closest thing I could find on SVTPerformance concerning track times. I dunno if this is the thread my friend was talking about tho...
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=71279&highlight=TRACK+TIME+second
about that article...
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=67455&highlight=road+race+evo
and the closest thing I could find on SVTPerformance concerning track times. I dunno if this is the thread my friend was talking about tho...
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=71279&highlight=TRACK+TIME+second
S
serAph
Heathen23 said:
nah - you obviously havent been to the honda forums yet. The one thing I can say about the SVT forums is that there are a lot of people there that do more than just own a mustang - they race them. Not a lot of other forums can say that. Well, race as in more than just street-race - and not that there arent people here or in other forums that race, but the SVT guys more often than not drag or road race their vehicles. I respect that. Anyways, they have information - wheres yours?
Last edited:
