Failed piston ring?

[Mr. Win]

right but the way he handles thing could be done so much better. I know matthew was at fault for his so i base nothing on that time...

 

[Focus]

right but the way he handles thing could be done so much better. I know matthew was at fault for his so i base nothing on that time...

I suggest you give Nick a call tomorrow at the shop, and speak to him, see what kind of a person he is. Then you can have your an honest opinion of him.

He is very nice and tries to help out as much as he can.

 

[Mr. Win]

Im sure he is, but the impression that i get is from the way he talks. I dont see the need for all this.

I suggest you give Nick a call tomorrow at the shop, and speak to him, see what kind of a person he is. Then you can have your an honest opinion of him.

He is very nice and tries to help out as much as he can.

 

[Focus]

Im sure he is, but the impression that i get is from the way he talks. I dont see the need for all this.

You would be also, if people kept hammering your product, especially if you know it works and it powers the most powerful MSP's out there.

 

[BlkZoomZoom]

lol. Yeah thats a good point.

 

[Mr. Win]

yea i hear you man this is just never ending.

 

[TurfBurn]

You would be also, if people kept hammering your product, especially if you know it works and it powers the most powerful MSP's out there.

I generally stay away from these discussion because of several major reasons outside of trying to keep from the muck. The AEM, the MPI, the Haltech, and the Microtech are all different things with different prices with different intents with different features. It's apples to oranges to bananas to graps to kumkwats.

And also, where I think some statements are ridiculously idiotic is the constant claims to "most powerful" vehicle this or that based on this or that engine management. You all should know that the modification of the motor matters the most in what it will make for power, then the quality of the tune (assuming at least a "decent" tune in the first place). Obviously you need a capable EMS to do the tune. But all the EMS's are capable. They all do timing they all do fuel they all due adjustments. How much past that is the EMS is damn near negligible.

So you guys can all go on measuring your manhood in public. But somewhere along the way it may become intelligent to actually use the same units of measurment. In other words comparing one car running one turbo with X amount of headwork and X efficiency intercooler and X fuel system doesn't mean crap about Z engine management system when compared against Y motor with Y intercooler with Y fuel system with Y turbo with W engine management.

The MPI is a kick ass unit. It does the job and it does it for less. The AEM is an amazing unit raw power and features. I don't know enough about the Haltech... so whatever.. and the Microtech is a beautiful unit done at a fabulous cost with a great interface. They will all make power. They will also all have "problems" on the cars due to users, installations, and "ghosts".

For now I'll measure my results on a Microtech in teeth... the number of teeth showing in my smile while I'm lovin the ride.

[/soapbox]

 

[BlkZoomZoom]

I'm stock. Beat mine. lol

 

[Focus]

I generally stay away from these discussion because of several major reasons outside of trying to keep from the muck. The AEM, the MPI, the Haltech, and the Microtech are all different things with different prices with different intents with different features. It's apples to oranges to bananas to graps to kumkwats.

And also, where I think some statements are ridiculously idiotic is the constant claims to "most powerful" vehicle this or that based on this or that engine management. You all should know that the modification of the motor matters the most in what it will make for power, then the quality of the tune (assuming at least a "decent" tune in the first place). Obviously you need a capable EMS to do the tune. But all the EMS's are capable. They all do timing they all do fuel they all due adjustments. How much past that is the EMS is damn near negligible.

So you guys can all go on measuring your manhood in public. But somewhere along the way it may become intelligent to actually use the same units of measurment. In other words comparing one car running one turbo with X amount of headwork and X efficiency intercooler and X fuel system doesn't mean crap about Z engine management system when compared against Y motor with Y intercooler with Y fuel system with Y turbo with W engine management.

The MPI is a kick ass unit. It does the job and it does it for less. The AEM is an amazing unit raw power and features. I don't know enough about the Haltech... so whatever.. and the Microtech is a beautiful unit done at a fabulous cost with a great interface. They will all make power. They will also all have "problems" on the cars due to users, installations, and "ghosts".

For now I'll measure my results on a Microtech in teeth... the number of teeth showing in my smile while I'm lovin the ride.

[/soapbox]

What I keep saying all along: Any EMS will tune well a properly running vehicle. On the other hand, NO EMS will be able to tune a car that's not running 100%

Factor in the fact that tuning is not just running some windows program or some self learn function. You have to have an understanding of what the engine is doing.

That's it for me with these discussions. If you need help tuning let me know. If you want to argue about EMS systems, kiss my ass.

 

[Kooldino]

You are full of crap. You are one -ucked up person.

Now I'm a liar? Super.

I'm f*#$#d up too? *sigh* Whatever you say, Nick. Why are you mad at me all of a sudden? Why did you even bring this argument up again for the 10th time now? I'm happy with how I can tune the car, and that's all that matters. If you don't like MAP tuning on it, I'm not going to lose sleep at night over it.

I do not know what your deal is and now I do not give a s*** anymore. You do not know how to tune with the MAF so you make a statement on what can or cannot be done.

I never said MAF tuning cannot be done. I just chose not to, and I know a lot of people had issues with it. I'm not making anything up here...Ok?

Read this very well. Many people are tuning the way it should be and they have no problems.

Then I'm happy for them.

For the very small amount of people who have had problems, it has always been a problem with their car.

I'm not 100% sure about that. I could be wrong in this example, but didn't pdhaudio's problems go away once he went with an FMU?

Do not post bull s*** and not back it up. What kind of mod are you? You should be removed as a mod.

Oh, please.

You failed the test many times over. Your madness must end.

What "test" did I fail? I've done tons for these forums, more than most people realize. There's a lot that goes on behind the scenes, and I'm sure many people are grateful for what I do.

But you're right, I don't deserve to be a mod since I disagree on tuning methods of the MPI Tuner with you. But if i DID agree, it would make me a great mod. (second)

 

[Kooldino]

You would be also, if people kept hammering your product, especially if you know it works and it powers the most powerful MSP's out there.

Just for the record: I'm not hammering Nick's product. I didn't even bring it up in this thread. HE did. I was doing nothing more than defending my way of tuning his product.

 

[Kooldino]

But all the EMS's are capable. They all do timing they all do fuel they all due adjustments. How much past that is the EMS is damn near negligible.

I totally agree for the most part. But since I run a MAP, I'll never make as much power as I could, according to Nick.

The MPI is a kick ass unit. It does the job and it does it for less.

And that's exactly why I have one.

The AEM is an amazing unit raw power and features. I don't know enough about the Haltech... so whatever.. and the Microtech is a beautiful unit done at a fabulous cost with a great interface. They will all make power. They will also all have "problems" on the cars due to users, installations, and "ghosts".

For now I'll measure my results on a Microtech in teeth... the number of teeth showing in my smile while I'm lovin the ride.

[/soapbox]

Well put.

 

[Focus]

Just for the record: I'm not hammering Nick's product. I didn't even bring it up in this thread. HE did. I was doing nothing more than defending my way of tuning his product.

Did I ever say you did?

 

[Kooldino]

Did I ever say you did?

No, and I didn't mean to imply that you did.

I was just pointing out the fact that while I can understand Nick being upset at someone "attacking" his product, this case hase nothing to do with that, since...

1-He started by attacking my tuning method
2-I never attacked his product
3-The only thing "negative" that I said about his product is that some people have a hard time tuning it.

I'm not making anything up here, yet Nick has crossed the line a few times and has gotten personal for no reason. He's not going to convince anyone that MAF is > MAP by calling me "****** up", and a "bad mod", and such.

 

[Focus]

No, and I didn't mean to imply that you did.

I was just pointing out the fact that while I can understand Nick being upset at someone "attacking" his product, this case hase nothing to do with that, since...

1-He started by attacking my tuning method
2-I never attacked his product
3-The only thing "negative" that I said about his product is that some people have a hard time tuning it.

I'm not making anything up here, yet Nick has crossed the line a few times and has gotten personal for no reason. He's not going to convince anyone that MAF is > MAP by calling me "****** up", and a "bad mod", and such.

Point taken there.

 

[1FASTMP5]

There are a lot of people running the MPI and running it well. What point are you trying to make here? Do you have an MPI ??

yes, i hear this alot... but, i wanted to hear more than a hand full of people come out and say it. no, i dont own an mpi.... still thinking about getting one.

either way im not here to knock or start any s***... just want to find out the FACTS!

 

[Focus]

yes, i hear this alot... but, i wanted to hear more than a hand full of people come out and say it. no, i dont own an mpi.... still thinking about getting one.

either way im not here to knock or start any s***... just want to find out the FACTS!

I hear you. All I can tell you is that I am personally responsible for doing up 4 Mazdaspeeds with MPI and they are all running good now.

The issues we had:

1. The turbo module at one point had wrong resistance at one point, took us a week to figure it out but eventually we did. Nick offered to send new modules out, but I declined. The whole time we had these issues Nick was in almost daily contact with us, and he was on vacation.

2. Originally, Nick did not have a good base map for each different car, he had one for an MP# that was converted to turbo. This create dsome issues because we didn't have a good map to start with. I since, have developed a better map that I have given to people, even N/A guys, they load up and the car runs great.

Don't forget the MPI was one of the first EMS for the protege and it had to go through it's growing pains.

Ask anyone that has installed one recently, they are not having issues.

 

[MPNick]

yes, i hear this alot... but, i wanted to hear more than a hand full of people come out and say it. no, i dont own an mpi.... still thinking about getting one.

either way im not here to knock or start any s***... just want to find out the FACTS!

Well what you hear are a few things.

1] The people that have no problems with their car can tune it that way it is should be tuned.
2] the people that have had problems with their car still have problem even after the MPI.[ need to fix the car]
3]some people have used a MAP to tune their car. For one it seems to work fine[ but he cracked a piston]. The other is still having the same problem that he had before he installed the MPI.
4]some people that have never used the MPI are posting on what it can or cannot do, they do not know s*** about it.
5] make sure your car is 100% fine before hand. Install the MPI as I say and tune it the way it should be tuned and have a great ride.

 

[changedman]

make it stop, i dont know why this is still going.

 

[MPNick]

make it stop, i dont know why this is still going.

Because some like yourself took shots at it for no reason. You made claims but never posted all of the facts about a very big problem with your car. To this day you still have not posted the main problem that you had with your car. You only talked about software problems, MPI problems and TM problems not any problems with your car. When people come on and talk about how great the system is running some of you have a
problem with it.

Maybe you are pissed off because YOU could never get it to run right in your car and many others have it working great. I do not know what the deal with some of you people, I do not care. All I know is that no one is going to bash my product for no reason and get away with it. I will call anyone out who thinks they can take shots me or my product and get away with it. I give as good as I take.