extreme speed hard pipes?
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Just want to present an alternative for you: www.essentialspeed.com ... I LOVE mine 
Sorry I'm not answering your question.
Sorry I'm not answering your question.youve got the wrong idea here... the hardpipes are preventative maintenance and not a performance mod. they allow you to run an aftermarket BOV and alleviate most, sometimes all, of the compressor surge as well as avoid splitting of the stock plastic pipes down the road. you might get a lil less pressure loss but thats all
hardpipes actually ARE a bit of a performance mod over the accordion plastic pipes we have - there is some loss of boost in the contraction and expansion of the accordion parts, and a straighter airflow path will aid in getting more air into the engine... It helps smooth out the torque curve a bit and adds a few ponies to the wheels. It also is preventative, and they look nice & perty as well
Edit: also, alleviating the surge a bit also helps the turbo to spool a bit faster, or so I've read in other threads on here...
Edit: also, alleviating the surge a bit also helps the turbo to spool a bit faster, or so I've read in other threads on here...
LzrBlu2003MSP
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I have Extreme Speed's pipes and I like them alot. Not too hard to install. The b**** was getting the stock pipes off.
(bird) www.essentialspeed.com should redirect to www.essentialy-stoned-out-of-our-canadian-minds.can with prices like that. If the aftermarket world starts pricing like this, it will make buying my welder a much easier decision. No thanks, for that kind of money I'll pass.
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funnylittlman
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But you get a free sticker with the purchase 
I EAT Z3 said:
Before you make comments like this, maybe you should do some math so you keep eating Z3 and stop eating your foot.
Here's something copied right out of this thread:
http://www.protege5.com/vbb230/showthread.php?t=50184
I originally wrote it.
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Don't know US prices, but here's the breakdown in Canadian...
HKS SSQV: ~$400.
Recirculation fitting: $75
Flange: $60.
Silicon fittings (no idea, but it's not the cheap-ass plastic/rubber stuff), so say $40 including clamps.
Filter: again guessing at $40.
Injen CAI (closest I can think of for comparison): $400
ES's price in Canadian dollars is $1280.
That leaves $265 for 3 stainless steel pipes, mandrel bent elbows, and his time. I think that's a damned good deal.
Plus he includes a bracket for relocating the rad overflow, and the little things are thought of like adding a mount for the A/C valve by the TB and a new vacuum source for the wastegate to give the BOV it's own dedicated source off the manifold.
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MS MSP: Thanks for the comment, but it's not perfect. Yet.
Bullit said:
your forgetting that we canadians get screwed with border fees and tariffs... so his estimates were indeed accurate. ive ordered alot of things from the states and for direct comparison my HKS BOV was $190 US but once it got here and the dust settled i had paid $385 and change. thats before tax
