Engine Drop... Not Happy >> Dangerous And It Should Be Recall>> Almost Crash

[M3_Zoom]

Mazda is not going to give you a new car, unless you get a lawyer and find out what the lemon laws are in your state. Sorry to hear about your engine and I think you should sue mazda. A guy on another forum is trying to get a class action law suit together. I would post a link but this forum doesn't want its users to know any other forum exists.

As far as lemon law, it's not my field of expertise however, I do believe in order to "qualify" as a lemon, the issue with a car must take place three times WITHOUT the ability to be fixed before it's a lemon. It very well may differ from state to state but I'm not sure. I would do a search in the internet for your state.

If Japan issued a recall on the MS3 for this issue, why not us?

 

[M3_Zoom]

Mazda is not going to give you a new car, unless you get a lawyer and find out what the lemon laws are in your state. Sorry to hear about your engine and I think you should sue mazda. A guy on another forum is trying to get a class action law suit together. I would post a link but this forum doesn't want its users to know any other forum exists.

As far as lemon law, it's not my field of expertise however, I do believe in order to "qualify" as a lemon, the issue with a car must take place three times WITHOUT the ability to be fixed before it's a lemon. It very well may differ from state to state but I'm not sure. I would do a search on the internet for your state.

If Japan issued a recall on the MS3 for this issue, why not us?

 

[civic si hb]

What was your build date? It's on the the drivers front inside the door jam.

 

[mafanchai]

What was your build date? It's on the the drivers front inside the door jam.

i am actually heading to the mechanic shop and then call mazda up ... i want to take the hid out .. cause my dealer is a real bad one. I have a p2006 that is still not fix till now.. (about 3month). Granted that CEL does not light up now maybe ... weather related .. but in the winter, its a gamble.

I will try to get the build date.............


I might still be able to handle the car when the engine drop, i dont' know what about the others... or .... the car behind me ???

 

[civic si hb]

i am actually heading to the mechanic shop and then call mazda up ... i want to take the hid out .. cause my dealer is a real bad one. I have a p2006 that is still not fix till now.. (about 3month). Granted that CEL does not light up now maybe ... weather related .. but in the winter, its a gamble.

I will try to get the build date.............


I might still be able to handle the car when the engine drop, i dont' know what about the others... or .... the car behind me ???

I love the MS3 and if does happen to me i'll still keep her. I'm sure with in good time someone with make an upgrade for all the motor mounts for the car. Then i'll switch them all out to be on the safe side. Or a TSB in the future from mazda would be nice too.

 

[speed3shon]

As far as lemon law, it's not my field of expertise however, I do believe in order to "qualify" as a lemon, the issue with a car must take place three times WITHOUT the ability to be fixed before it's a lemon. It very well may differ from state to state but I'm not sure. I would do a search on the internet for your state.

If Japan issued a recall on the MS3 for this issue, why not us?

it does vary state to state, but the way i see it, if your engine drops, and they fix it, and it drops again, that applies as them not being able to fix an issue with the car....

im familiar with lemon law because my parents had a lemon 2001 Cadillac DHS, and had it replaced with a 2004 Cadillac SRX

 

[flyrevs]

links to websites are even deleted in pm's

Depends on how you link:
http://www.ford3forums.com/index.php?topic=79449.0, copy and paste into your browser, change "ford" to "mazda"...... wala

 

[clos561]

the master tech at mazda that fixed my tranny said the car needs to stiffen up a bit..i told him i was going to change the mount on the tranny but there wasnt any after market stuff out yet for the other mounts..he said the side mount near the driver side is what is makin the engine fall out....too bad no after market mounts for that yet only the one for the tranny

 

[Rotary_Powered]

links to websites are even deleted in pm's

True but you can always do this M S P R O T E G E . C O M for example

 

[whitey4311]

Look at this guys other post where he changed out the tranny mount and the after market mount he used failed. He is trying to say the 2 are unrelated but thats BS and he knows it. Hence the reason he ran under the car to change out the mount before it went into the shop.

There are a few solid cases of failures but when I see this s*** its no wonder why there are more failures coming up.

Honestly I hope it doenst get covered so people will learn their lesson that if they want to screw with s*** it becomes their responsibility to fix what ever breaks.

 

[clos561]

Look at this guys other post where he changed out the tranny mount and the after market mount he used failed. He is trying to say the 2 are unrelated but thats BS and he knows it. Hence the reason he ran under the car to change out the mount before it went into the shop.

There are a few solid cases of failures but when I see this s*** its no wonder why there are more failures coming up.

Honestly I hope it doenst get covered so people will learn their lesson that if they want to screw with s*** it becomes their responsibility to fix what ever breaks.

?!!?? i asked the master mechanic if changing motor mounts would void my warranty and he said no....i am going to change the tranny mount this weekend when i get paid and when something after market omes out for the other moutns i will get those...a recall will most likely not happen..its not a big enough issue with ALOT of cars where mazda will recall ALL the ms3's to change mounts...if it happens to one, change the mounts fix everything up and give them some mazda bucks right?

 

[whitey4311]

You are honestly tellming me right now if I call up any dealership and say by changing some of the motor mounts on the car it wont result in warranty issues?

Especially a dropped engine not being a result to someone having been under the car changing s*** out?

No thanks I think the car shifts just fine and if I was into making it a racer then I would have got an Evo or something or if you are going to change things do it right and spend alot of money.

 

[clos561]

You are honestly tellming me right now if I call up any dealership and say by changing some of the motor mounts on the car it wont result in warranty issues?

Especially a dropped engine not being a result to someone having been under the car changing s*** out?

No thanks I think the car shifts just fine and if I was into making it a racer then I would have got an Evo or something or if you are going to change things do it right and spend alot of money.

every dealer is different...my MASTER MECHANIC at mazda told me that it wouldnt void the warranty and he recommends it because he knows and said the motor has fallen out of these cars because of it. i dont need to spend alot of money...just spend money intelligently

 

[major error]

Did you get that in writing?

 

[clos561]

no...dont need to my dealer is pretty cool so im sure i wont have a issue if my motor falls out because a DIFFERENT motor mount fails...the tranny mount helps stable while u shift...and wheel hop...thats y on stock mount u hear a bang sound somtimes at hard shifts... (1-2)

 

[justa4banger]

Its truely up to the dealer...... Hell i asked my service manager would he void my warrnty for an aftermarket IC.......... He only asked if i was planning to raise the boost... of course i said no......... then he said no. a better flowing IC would cause the car to run outside of its parameters.. its like adding the CAI. its up to the dealer.

 

[major error]

My, aren't we trusting...
It may be a different mount that might fail, but it is part of a drivetrain suspension system. (I can just see them using that as an excuse (nervous) )
I hate to burst your bubble by playing devil's advocate here, but say you do the mod and the mount fails. What recourse do you have when a beancounter at this for-profit organization denies your warranty claim due to said mod? ...Your word against the mechanic's, and who are they going to listen to when large dollar signs are at the bottom of the invoice?

Everyone is welcome to do what they want to their cars within legal limits, so long as they're prepared to accept any/all consequences by doing so... If I can get something that will shield me from negative outcomes, you can be certain I will, whether it's absolutely necessary or not.
As far as car mods are concerned, I think I'll wait for a while before doing any on mine...

 

[whitey4311]

EXACTLY major error!

The fact that the failed after market mount had nothing to do with this failure is bull s***. It tells me 2 things which are that he must drive it hard which may be fine but also that if the after market mount failed then it must result in another failure near by.

The truth to all this is if he was so sure it had NOTHING to do with the dropped motor why not leave it on the car when he took it in?

I call BULL s***!

I do recall reading on here where another guy had a moutn failure and the tech found an after market bolt he used that sheared off. I truely think that there may be a couple of cases where a car was all stock and this still happened and correct me if I am wrong but JUSTA4BANGER you were one of them right?

 

[shane02pro5]

If I had an MS3 and Mazda didn't do anything for me, right then after I reported it. I would get some "Loctite Threadlocker" jack up the tranny and/or motor back out the nuts/bolts put threadlock on there and tighten them back down and done. This is a simple thing to do I would think even though I haven't seen how hard it is to get to the tranny mount. For your own safety just do it.

 

[whitey4311]

Actually I would leave it alone as what should be done. If it truely fails by MFR error then so be it.

I looked mine over and it seemed fine to me and the bolt was flush to the mount but I dont have the means of supporting the engine/tranny to back that bolt out.