Dynotronics offering tuning for Mazda3 Skyactiv 2.0 and 2.5 engines

[yagie]

Not sure if anyone else has seen this but saw that Dynotronics is already offering tuning for our platform. Don't know much about the company or anything but thought i'd throw it out there if anyone was looking around. One thing I do know is tuning is always a benefit. Manufacturers leave a lot on the table for the sake of reliability and stuff, but unlocking it can make an awesome difference with any car. Including better MPG's if you get it setup right.

Anyone else have thought's on this company or tuning on our platform in general?

Here's a link to their site - clicky clicky

 

[actuator]

good find! now someone be brave and install this

 

[CXVille]

Getting more power out of a normally aspirated, 13:1 compression engine, to run on regular gas will mean a couple of horsepower at best. Given the ECUs controlling the timing and fuel, very closely, there is not much left. I didn't see any indication of potential gains on their page.

Wonder why not?

 

[$lickology]

Getting more power out of a normally aspirated, 13:1 compression engine, to run on regular gas will mean a couple of horsepower at best. Given the ECUs controlling the timing and fuel, very closely, there is not much left. I didn't see any indication of potential gains on their page.

Wonder why not?

I totally agree, without any indication of HP gains doesn't give potential customers any confidence in this product?

 

[yagie]

With a new intake, exhaust and a tune I think you could probably get another 50 horsepower out of our engine with the tune set up for premium. That would push us over the 200 mark and make a pretty good difference in driving dynamic. Anymore than that is unnecessary and would put too much strain on the engine like mentioned of course. But I'd be happy with an extra 30-40 under the hood for if I wanted have a little fun on the backroads.

 

[Chibana]

Uh, yeah, 50 hp is wildly optimistic. No way. I've been doing this stuff with every one of my cars going back to my 1997 V6 Ford Contour, including a heavily modified 2001 Focus ZX3 with 13 psi of boost and water/methanol injection, and have learned to heavily research just about everything I do with my cars. Tuning a normally aspirated car for premium gas will maybe net another 10 or 15 hp (FSWerks has pretty good luck with this for the Focus), and that's assuming that the car isn't already advancing timing automatically when it detects higher octane gas in the tank, something that most recent model year cars do (I know for a fact that my 2012 Ford Focus did, according to the Ford "Source Book" for the car). I would argue that you might see a total of 20 whp from intake, axle-back exhaust, and a tune for 91 or higher octane, and 5 to 10 of that you might get without a custom tune or replacement hardware just by putting 91+ octane in your car right from the dealer.

 

[Chibana]

...What I don't understand is why someone would want to spend all of this money for marginal gains on a car that is not designed for racing and is not a high powered car.....

That's an easy one to answer: BECAUSE IT'S FUN. The same reason people have modified their cars from the beginning. The same reason people modified all the old school cars from the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Define "high powered car." Compared to most of those old school cars, this 2.5L Mazda3 is pretty damn quick. It's chassis is also far superior and far more rigid. This reminds me of a comment made by one of the guys at Kugel Komponents, the company that makes the V8 conversion kit for the first-gen Focus. Someone (a Mustang fan) asked on their forums, "But can the Focus handle the torque made by the Mustang V8?" Their response was great, and something that every old school muscle car meat-head should read (paraphrased from memory): "Are you kidding? The Focus chassis is far and away stronger than the Mustang's!".

I don't understand people who insist on throwing around the (somewhat racist in origin) term, "rice" when people modify these kinds of cars. They're better, faster, and safer than most of those cars that so many baby boomers remember so fondly. Most of those cars were mundane, crude (even for their time) boring transportation machines with big engines thrown into them (which were often not that fast after catalytic converters came along). At least with a car like the Mazda3, you're starting with a car that has an exceptional chassis underneath it to begin with, recognized as one of the best-to-drive FWD cars around. I have a harder time understanding modifying cars like Toyota Corollas.

 

[canyonarrow]

I'll email Joe at DPTune and see what he has to say.

My experience with Dynotronics on my '99 Miata was terrible. They claimed 12whp gain; I gained 3. $600. Oh, and my car ran 15:1 AFR at full throttle, at 5,000rpm. Good thing I measured. That ECU is sitting in my closet and my Dynotronics purchase will forever be one of the worst purchases of my life. No refunds.

However, people with the NC Miata seem to have fantastic luck. And people with the MZR 2.5L have great results, too. They used to have dyno plots on their site, but apparently those are gone now...probably because too many people were complaining that they didn't reach the claimed output (sorry, I'm bitter).

-Mike

 

[Oliver]

Hey Guys, i just received my Tactrix Openport 2.0 from dynotronics. i do have a SRI + Axelback exhaust. i plan on just logging for now. i will let you guys know my outcome once i am done.

 

[IS_department]

Hey Guys, i just received my Tactrix Openport 2.0 from dynotronics. i do have a SRI + Axelback exhaust. i plan on just logging for now. i will let you guys know my outcome once i am done.

first start out data logging and make sure that all your outputs are correct. things like TPS, AFR, Final Ignition value, RPM, ECT, etc.

Once you verify that everything is outputting correctly then you can begin tuning, however you will need dyno time to setup your timing map as there is no real way to "street" tune timing without solid data.

Since i dont own a mazda, and never will again after my rx7, I'm not 100% sure that they come factory with a wideband that the Dynotronics tool can log. If not, you will need to get a bung welded/installed and a wideband controller + gauge.... and if that is the case, i do not see any way of it logging directly to software as it outputs 0-5v which correlates with AFR. Since there is no additional interface to integrate an aftermarket wideband, you may be hitting a road block until dyno time.

you should just get an older sr powered car from nissan. the sky is the limit, and you can lay down the vvl **** all day.

if you have some decent logs that can export to csv, i can get you setup with virtual dyno. just walk to the other hanger.

 

[Oliver]

Well worded and couldn't agree with you more: beacuse its fun..

That's an easy one to answer: BECAUSE IT'S FUN. The same reason people have modified their cars from the beginning. The same reason people modified all the old school cars from the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Define "high powered car." Compared to most of those old school cars, this 2.5L Mazda3 is pretty damn quick. It's chassis is also far superior and far more rigid. This reminds me of a comment made by one of the guys at Kugel Komponents, the company that makes the V8 conversion kit for the first-gen Focus. Someone (a Mustang fan) asked on their forums, "But can the Focus handle the torque made by the Mustang V8?" Their response was great, and something that every old school muscle car meat-head should read (paraphrased from memory): "Are you kidding? The Focus chassis is far and away stronger than the Mustang's!".

I don't understand people who insist on throwing around the (somewhat racist in origin) term, "rice" when people modify these kinds of cars. They're better, faster, and safer than most of those cars that so many baby boomers remember so fondly. Most of those cars were mundane, crude (even for their time) boring transportation machines with big engines thrown into them (which were often not that fast after catalytic converters came along). At least with a car like the Mazda3, you're starting with a car that has an exceptional chassis underneath it to begin with, recognized as one of the best-to-drive FWD cars around. I have a harder time understanding modifying cars like Toyota Corollas.