Draxas Exhaust??......

tgv121281

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I've been hearing alot about Borla & Magnaflow and cant seem to find a big diff. However, Draxas offers 2.5" piping instaed of 2.25". Need to get some feedback b/c I'm ready to order.

1-Is 2.5" sufficient for turbo (I know depending on how much I boost I'll need a bigger pipe, but will it work for starters?)

2-Does anyone have any kind of previous experience w/ Draxas or their products?

3-Any feedback on anything would be great-thanks!
 
I didnt know that, thanks for the 411. Only problem is that they are out of stock, but hey-I guess "it is what it is"
 
tgv121281 said:
I've been hearing alot about Borla & Magnaflow and cant seem to find a big diff. However, Draxas offers 2.5" piping instaed of 2.25". Need to get some feedback b/c I'm ready to order.

1-Is 2.5" sufficient for turbo (I know depending on how much I boost I'll need a bigger pipe, but will it work for starters?)

2-Does anyone have any kind of previous experience w/ Draxas or their products?

3-Any feedback on anything would be great-thanks!

1. 2.5" is big enough unless your looking for very high hp numbers (400+ hp)

2.and 3. I have the draxas exaust with the highflow cat option. The fit was great, the quality is great. The exaust is well worth the wait, I will definatly do buisness with them again.


Chris
 
2.5" is way to big for a inline 4. I had a V6 camaro with 200 hp and for that much power 2.5" is more than what that engine needs.I had a 2 1/4" intermediate pipe stock on the camaro. Went up to a 2.5" for better performance. You will lose a lot of low end torque and barely any gains with such a big pipe. Take it from magnaflow and borla they know there stuff because they are the biggest muffler makers in the US. Here go to dynomax's website and read all about the pipe sizes and why it can hurt your performance.
DynoMax Performance Selection Guidelines


Getting the most out of your exhaust system modifications is easy. Here are some common-sense ways to maximize your horsepower. . . with DynoMax!



Restrictive Exhaust

A restrictive exhaust creates backpressure in the exhaust system that hurts your vehicles performance in two ways:

The engine has to work harder to force exhaust gases out of the cylinders.
Engines cannot scavenge burned exhaust gases out of the cylinder efficiently. This leaves exhaust gases in the cylinder to dilute incoming air/fuel mixtures and rob your engine of horsepower.



Pipe Diameter

A common misconception is that the larger the diameter, the better the system. But bigger isnt always better. Systems that are too large in diameter can actually hurt performance.

As a general rule, switching to a performance system that is 1/4 to 1/2 inch larger than stock will provide you with the best horsepower increases. To determine which pipe diameters will be best for your system, decide what RPM range your engine will operate at, most of the time. Smaller diameter pipes will produce low- to mid-RPM torque. Larger diameters produce mid- to high-RPM torque.



Horsepower Depends on Flow not Pipe Diameter Alone

Bigger isnt always better. Systems that are too large in diameter can actually hurt performance. Improved flow is what you need.

Having large diameter pipes isnt whats cool. Going fast and making horsepower is.

http://www.dynomax.com/techsupport.stm#TechTips
 
Mazda3hatchback said:
2.5" is way to big for a inline 4. I had a V6 camaro with 200 hp and for that much power 2.5" is more than what that engine needs.I had a 2 1/4" intermediate pipe stock on the camaro. Went up to a 2.5" for better performance. You will lose a lot of low end torque and barely any gains with such a big pipe. Take it from magnaflow and borla they know there stuff because they are the biggest muffler makers in the US. Here go to dynomax's website and read all about the pipe sizes and why it can hurt your performance.
DynoMax Performance Selection Guidelines


Getting the most out of your exhaust system modifications is easy. Here are some common-sense ways to maximize your horsepower. . . with DynoMax!



Restrictive Exhaust

A restrictive exhaust creates backpressure in the exhaust system that hurts your vehicles performance in two ways:

The engine has to work harder to force exhaust gases out of the cylinders.
Engines cannot scavenge burned exhaust gases out of the cylinder efficiently. This leaves exhaust gases in the cylinder to dilute incoming air/fuel mixtures and rob your engine of horsepower.



Pipe Diameter

A common misconception is that the larger the diameter, the better the system. But bigger isnt always better. Systems that are too large in diameter can actually hurt performance.

As a general rule, switching to a performance system that is 1/4 to 1/2 inch larger than stock will provide you with the best horsepower increases. To determine which pipe diameters will be best for your system, decide what RPM range your engine will operate at, most of the time. Smaller diameter pipes will produce low- to mid-RPM torque. Larger diameters produce mid- to high-RPM torque.



Horsepower Depends on Flow not Pipe Diameter Alone

Bigger isnt always better. Systems that are too large in diameter can actually hurt performance. Improved flow is what you need.

Having large diameter pipes isnt whats cool. Going fast and making horsepower is.

http://www.dynomax.com/techsupport.stm#TechTips


Did your read his post? If he's planning on boosting later he'd be stupid to waste $450 on an exaust with 2.25" piping. We all know that anyone wanting performance from a 4 cylinder engine has to sacrifice some low end torque to get midrange or high rpm power. 2.5" is small enough to not lose much low end torque, while still being big enough to support moderate boost levels. I choose to buy from the company that has experience developing performance parts for the duratec, rather than dynomax or magnaflow that make cookie cutter exausts with no real expertice pertaining to the duratec engine.
 
I wouldn't say they are the best just because of how long they have been in business. It has been tested and 2.5" showed gains though out the power band over 2.25"
Just goes to show that Magna-Flow and Borla did not do any R&D...just bent some piping attached some mufflers and put it for sale.
A real tuner that is making parts for the Focus and the Mazda3 has even said that one could run a 3" exhaust for a highly modded N/A and is needed to reach the highest hp/tq gain.
That rule they use is old!

My take on that is 2.25" ok if you are not serious about modding.
2.5" for both, it will mate up to race headers that are coming out, as I don't think anyone would make a 2.25" collectpr on a race header.
2.5" will work for turbo/supercharger systems but 3.0 will provide the better gains.
 
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