CX-70 Car and Driver Review

Once upon a time, Mazda focused on building real drivers cars. This included coupes, sports cars, sedans and even hatchbacks.

Now, they are building large 2 ton SUV's.

Dear North American Market; please stop buying unnecessarily large cars with a compromised center of gravity. We would like for Mazda to continue building real drivers cars again, such as sedans, coupes and sports cars. Thanks

Regards,

Driver of a Snorting Skyactiv 2.5 .
 
Something no one else is thinking about: I wonder if Mazda is just padding their numbers.
 
Something no one else is thinking about: I wonder if Mazda is just padding their numbers.
Explain.

In my mind (and substantiated by forum members who have done so), Mazda stands to lose customers who need a mid-sized SUV!
 
Why offer only one hybrid vehicle when you can say you have two? It probably helps their search results at least, and who knows, maybe there's a CAFE benefit with the way the formulas work. I'm speculating, of course.
 
Why offer only one hybrid vehicle when you can say you have two? It probably helps their search results at least, and who knows, maybe there's a CAFE benefit with the way the formulas work. I'm speculating, of course.
The CAFE benefit works much better if the same PHEV was in a smaller vehicle. Just sayin'...
 
During the past year, 48% of their company profit came from just the CX-60 and CX-90 due to their higher margins. Unfortunately, the bean counters have a case even though the large platform volume is much lower.
 
During the past year, 48% of their company profit came from just the CX-60 and CX-90 due to their higher margins. Unfortunately, the bean counters have a case even though the large platform volume is much lower.
The CX90 sold for much higher in US vs Canada last year. That price has been adjusted downward w/the intro of the CX70. How does 2 nearly identical models w/tighter margins create more profit?!!!
 
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Once upon a time, Mazda focused on building real drivers cars. This included coupes, sports cars, sedans and even hatchbacks.

Now, they are building large 2 ton SUV's.

Dear North American Market; please stop buying unnecessarily large cars with a compromised center of gravity. We would like for Mazda to continue building real drivers cars again, such as sedans, coupes and sports cars. Thanks
Blame U.S. Government regulation. Corporate Average Fuel Economy regulations has a carve out for "light trucks" and "off-road" vehicles. There are also dead zones on size where a manufacturer is foolish to build because the regulations will punish them. Then add the whole CO2 offset nonsense. The landscape in the U.S. would be significantly different and vehicles a lot cheaper if we wiped away all the regulation.
 
During the past year, 48% of their company profit came from just the CX-60 and CX-90 due to their higher margins. Unfortunately, the bean counters have a case even though the large platform volume is much lower.
That makes no sense. Mazda corporate's customers are the dealers that buy the vehicles from them. They all buy for invoice price
 
Once upon a time, Mazda focused on building real drivers cars. This included coupes, sports cars, sedans and even hatchbacks.

Now, they are building large 2 ton SUV's.

Dear North American Market; please stop buying unnecessarily large cars with a compromised center of gravity. We would like for Mazda to continue building real drivers cars again, such as sedans, coupes and sports cars. Thanks

Regards,

Driver of a Snorting Skyactiv 2.5 .
I have to add that many people of my age (65+) we have the means and the desire to go luxury SUV. This is the largest vehicle I have owned and I went with the PHEV as the center of gravity is lower due to the heavy battery under the drivers area. It handles like a much sportier car. I've been very impressed with the CX-90. Everyone that rides in it with me comment highly on the interior quality and ride comfort let alone the quietness. Once us Baby Boomers doe off in 10-20 years, the market will adjust to the Millenial desires since our majority right not is why the US has such large SUVs. In my opinion, of course.
 
I read the review and it’s full of bias. He got the mpg wrong on the PHEV as I’m getting 78 - 80 mpg consistently since 10/1 when I got the car. I see he got out of college in 2009 and that tells me something. He is of a different generation than many of us boomers who have the cx90 and cx70. It’s a great car for our use and needs. My opinion is generational bias is kicking in since the generations look at cars way differently.
 
I read the review and it’s full of bias. He got the mpg wrong on the PHEV as I’m getting 78 - 80 mpg consistently since 10/1 when I got the car. I see he got out of college in 2009 and that tells me something. He is of a different generation than many of us boomers who have the cx90 and cx70. It’s a great car for our use and needs. My opinion is generational bias is kicking in since the generations look at cars way differently.
Your fuel economy is most likely skewed towards only the max battery range of the PHEV, yes?
C&D tests include highway conditions that go beyond say a 10-15 mile commute!

FWIW, the results are consistent w/C&D's prior review on the CX90 PHEV:
 
Tested: 2025 Mazda CX-70 PHEV Is Stuck in the Middle with Two

Added the PHEV test.

Not exactly a positive review.
There have been many of these, with questions and concerns. The conclusions are often still positive, it's after all a great effort what they're trying to do here. But seems like anytime the +/- are mentioned here and on other forums, someone gets their back up. 70/90 owners are becoming a touchy bunch, dare I say.

The reviews don't mean it isn't a good or great vehicle, and don't mean they arent right for some buyers. But it's baffling to me how when so many reviews come up with the same things that could be improved, some people still need to push back when it's mentioned here.

I took a break from this site, couple months maybe, as it just became too much. And i come back to the same. Mods do a great job here keeping things civil, so I am in no way complaining about the discussions here and what's allowed. It's just I lack the desire to defend myself when I point out something that dozens of reviews have noted is lacking.

The cars don't need to be perfect to be great.

I currently don't own one, but it would be on my list in the future. But I'm not sold, cause there has been ample evidence of things that could be improved.
 
Your fuel economy is most likely skewed towards only the max battery range of the PHEV, yes?
C&D tests include highway conditions that go beyond say a 10-15 mile commute!

FWIW, the results are consistent w/C&D's prior review on the CX90 PHEV:
Yes, this PHEV is perfect for retired people who do not commute. It's also great for home office workers. Anyone that travels 20 miles a day, the mileage ends up being incredible. I also drive like an EV driver should by following the speed limits and drifting to a stop when I can. If I had a lot of highway driving, not sure I would pick a PHEV..
 

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