That bolt issue is why Turbohoses spent so much time making the core. Also, that's a big factor in the price difference. Different strokes for different folks. I personally like everything to fit well in my car. That's part of function for me. Form is the aesthetics. That spicy has every right to voice his opinion on the product. He said what he liked and what he didn't. Instead of everyone coming on here attacking him why don't you try coming on and disagreeing with his opinion tactfully?
CustomMSP SMIC fitment sucks.
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for the price it's an awesome deal even with a little gap. I would personally go to Home Depot and get some weather strip or foam strips, then some new push through mounting tab things for aftermarket fans and then put that weather strip or foam under the fan and mount it as best as possible so It's drawing from the radiator and I/C efficiently as possible and in the process save myself $295 minus say $40 for supplies.
Just my opinoin.
Just my opinoin.
jersey_emt
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Yes, people have the right to express their opinion.
But the issue here has been well-documented. If you research fully before you buy, you would know about the fitment issue, because CustomMSP has been open about it.
You don't go making threads called 'this product sucks' just because you did not research the product before you bought it.
And how did it take you 4 hours to install it? It drops right in, should take an hour tops.
If you're not happy with the product, then talk to CustomMSP, and I'm sure something can be worked out.
But the issue here has been well-documented. If you research fully before you buy, you would know about the fitment issue, because CustomMSP has been open about it.
You don't go making threads called 'this product sucks' just because you did not research the product before you bought it.
And how did it take you 4 hours to install it? It drops right in, should take an hour tops.
If you're not happy with the product, then talk to CustomMSP, and I'm sure something can be worked out.
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i knew about the fan fitment when i read about this smic prior to ordering.
its a thicker core, its not gonna sit flush. does turbo hoses? if it does sit flush, then its no thicker than stock. definately best mod ive done besides my unichip.
its a thicker core, its not gonna sit flush. does turbo hoses? if it does sit flush, then its no thicker than stock. definately best mod ive done besides my unichip.
Demonic-Speed said:
The product fits exactly as described though. The fitment issue was addressed at the beginning of development. Now spicy sounds like a douche for not doing his homework and getting his panties in a wad because it wasn't what he expected.
(uhm)
Wow, no slack given here....Everyone jumps on the purchaser because the thing he bought doesn't fit well.....and let me get this right....because it was documented and EVERYONE knew about it, it's fine to sell it like that. I think if I were the guy that built this, I would have fixed the problem before selling more. Just because a problem is noted and documented doesn't make it ok. Maybe the user should have done more research and even bought another kind, but that does not excuse the fact that it does not fit 100%.
Just my 2 cents.
Personally I would have made some brackets or whatever to make it fit better on my car.
Wow, no slack given here....Everyone jumps on the purchaser because the thing he bought doesn't fit well.....and let me get this right....because it was documented and EVERYONE knew about it, it's fine to sell it like that. I think if I were the guy that built this, I would have fixed the problem before selling more. Just because a problem is noted and documented doesn't make it ok. Maybe the user should have done more research and even bought another kind, but that does not excuse the fact that it does not fit 100%.
Just my 2 cents.
Personally I would have made some brackets or whatever to make it fit better on my car.
Demonic-Speed
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lamp3 said:
ah feels like 8th grade again
Good times...I don't know much about Custom's product because I have never looked at the stuff, but if his website says (There is a problem with the fit because the core is thicker then stock) Then fine, I agree spicy should have known about the problem. But to say that it has been addressed in some thread some months back is not a fair statement. There is a lot of crap that moves around of this board so to say he should have seen that one line in a thread from 2 months ago is not a fair statement <---Goes to search for a Custom thread about SMIC fit.
Velocifero
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There is no problem with the fitment, its the biggest SMIC available, it was made bigger and knowledge of fitment was known ahead of time, it was produced like that, not a problem that was never fixed, this product isn't for people who have a problem with improvising a little, still no reason to bad mouth a manufacturer for a great product that no one has complained about, and every person on here is right to do unto him as he has done to Custom and I expect it to come back onto me.II-Savy said:
Spicy, I'll buy it from you if you can't make it fit or can't find happiness with it's fitment.
There is no need to replace any fans with this, sure if you want to, but it is not necessary at all.
Demonic-Speed
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In vendor reviews I found.
"The fabrication is top notch and fitment is spot on. The car feels more powerful, revs smoother and heat soak is non-existant. I whoheartedly recommend this product to anyone who is looking to upgrade their intercooler and CustomMSP is as good a vendor as you'll find on this site IMO."
I searched on CustomMSP SMIC fitment and only got three results. None of which was a DIY...
In the DIY forum I found this statement
"5. Install the intake back on. It'll be a tight fit between the Injen lower pipe and the fan, because the new IC is much thicker and makes the fan stick out alittle more. As long as you have all the couplers on tight there shouldn't be a problem."
alittle more does not truely explain what someone should expect. Saying that the IC does not have a mount point for the Drivers side bolt is much clearer. I mean we are splitting hairs, but I am just trying to defend Spicy in his expectation and rant.
"The fabrication is top notch and fitment is spot on. The car feels more powerful, revs smoother and heat soak is non-existant. I whoheartedly recommend this product to anyone who is looking to upgrade their intercooler and CustomMSP is as good a vendor as you'll find on this site IMO."
I searched on CustomMSP SMIC fitment and only got three results. None of which was a DIY...
In the DIY forum I found this statement
"5. Install the intake back on. It'll be a tight fit between the Injen lower pipe and the fan, because the new IC is much thicker and makes the fan stick out alittle more. As long as you have all the couplers on tight there shouldn't be a problem."
alittle more does not truely explain what someone should expect. Saying that the IC does not have a mount point for the Drivers side bolt is much clearer. I mean we are splitting hairs, but I am just trying to defend Spicy in his expectation and rant.
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Velocifero said:
Werd...
It was made with MAX SIZE in mind, and to do so a minor sacrifice had to be made, and for one I am happy to have it. I mean its about the same size as the Wagner FMIC my friend has. So again, its not a PROBLEM that wasn't addressed.
I still agree that this guy is entitled to his opinion and we should respect it.
mazdaowner123
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The thing is, it's not a fitment problem, it's just the way it fits. If you want to have it fit 100%, you buy turbohoses. If you want a bigger core, you go with CustomMSP's. Much like if you want a huge FMIC core, you're going to have to cut the bumper. If you don't wanna cut the bumper, you're gonna have to get a smaller fmic. Also, CustomMSP's is much cheaper than Turbohoses, with as much or more performance gain.. It's just a different product, not a product with a problem. I can't wait till I get the money to order my CustomMSP SMIC.
~brian
~brian
II-Savy said:
Lay off him. If you did your research you would know about the fitment. And if you have a problem with the product, contact him privately. There is no reason to come in here and slander someone reputation and product. This is why all of our vendors are leaving, and this is what t3ase is talking about. Our forum turns into a whiny b**** fest that no company wants to deal with and consequently no one does. There is a correct way to go about getting your issue resolved, and this isnt it.
spicynamja
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Look, I did research this product. I did not read EVERY thread but I read the install thread, the GB thread, and the thread when Jersey got it put in his car. I worked with ArrestYellowMSP yesterday, ask him what he thinks. The pictures in the install thread DO NOT show the fitment issue. In his pictures it sits flush with the radiator. There is also no overhead view showing the gap. I think that I am losing cooling efficiency because the fan is so far away now. I know I should have contacted custommsp first, but you have to understand that after the long install for a product that was advertised as "fits great" I had a right to be disgruntled.
spicynamja
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Let me apologize for posting this prior to letting Custom know, I just want the fitment issue to be more clear to everyone. I did a few searches and still did not find anything regarding that issue.
