cp-e "Standback" equipped SPEED3 made *ALMOST* 300hp to the wheels!!

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We recently provided a Standback to a loyal customer of ours who owns a SPEED3. He had all of our products installed on his car (XCel CAI, off-road turboback exhaust), as well as an ETS top mount intercooler. Part of the reason why we gave him the Standback was because he recently started experiencing a fuel cut under heavy load, and the Standback has been able to eliminate the fuel cut on SPEED6's in the past, so we thought we'd give it a shot on his SPEED3. We also wanted to see if the Standback could add a little more "ooomph" to his ride. We were successful on both fronts as he made 297hp and 303tq to the wheels, and without any fuel cut!

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If you're curious to learn a little more about the nature of the fuel cut on this vehicle, we have some information linked here:

http://tinyurl.com/ys55gb

I'll be on and off the boards all day, so if you have any questions, please feel free to post them up!


Jordan
 
thats awsome im impressed with cpe

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www.cp-e.com said:
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We recently provided a Standback to a loyal customer of ours who owns a SPEED3. He had all of our products installed on his car (XCel CAI, off-road turboback exhaust), as well as an ETS top mount intercooler. Part of the reason why we gave him the Standback was because he recently started experiencing a fuel cut under heavy load, and the Standback has been able to eliminate the fuel cut on SPEED6's in the past, so we thought we'd give it a shot on his SPEED3. We also wanted to see if the Standback could add a little more "ooomph" to his ride. We were successful on both fronts as he made 297hp and 303tq to the wheels, and without any fuel cut!

169283.jpg


If you're curious to learn a little more about the nature of the fuel cut on this vehicle, we have some information linked here:

http://tinyurl.com/ys55gb

I'll be on and off the boards all day, so if you have any questions, please feel free to post them up!


Jordan
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Have you run any dyno's with stock ms3's and your standback. I ask this because these are the same numbers stock cars with only the xede system made. Thanks.
 
Great work! Something to look forward to in the future.

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Ms3InMd said:
Have you run any dyno's with stock ms3's and your standback. I ask this because these are the same numbers stock cars with only the xede system made. Thanks.
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Good question, i was thinking the same thing
 
piggyback ecu from protege garage...they working on plug and play which is what im waiting on....u can break 300whp with exhaust, intake, and xede...
 
yae but the cp-e unit didnt state they increased boost or anything...jsut fuel cut....xede does that plus spike at 20 and settle at 18 for the speed3...so maybe thats what makes the bigger addition in power for the xede...unless im wrong and the cp-e increases boost too...then xede all the way
 
You guys are bringing up some legitimate points, but I just want to get one point across and then I'll leave you guys alone :D

A piggyback tuning controller is designed to control engine functions, which should result in some power gain when tuned properly. You can stick an engine controller and lose power if you don't tune the car well. So the power gains are not a reflection of how good the engine controller is, but rather how the car was tuned. So comparing engine controllers based on one-off dyno's is a risky game to play. Here's an illustration of my point:

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Here Nutari was kind enough to post dyno graphs of his tuning sessions with the SPEED3. His car isn't stock (I saw an ETS top mount intercooler but no mods list) and he didn't make as much power as BEGi. But why? They're the same car, the same brand dyno, and the same engine controller. The reason is because the cars were tuned differently. The tune makes horsepower, not the engine controller. In my opinion, the ease of use, functionality, cost, and realiability are how an engine controller should be judged, and not how much horsepower someone made using it.

Anyway, I was excited to share these numbers because it was the highest dyno I have seento date, and even better yet, it was on a tune that's suitable for a daily driver. There are no more boost spikes with our smart boost control, our unit got rid of the fuel cut our customer was experiencing, and he's overjoyed by the final result. We couldn't ask for more :D

Anyway, if you're curious to know what our Standback is capable of, I'll be happy to share some info with you guys. We also have the part numbers of the SPEED3 connectors, so we should be releasing a PnP option as well.

Questions? Comments? Flames? (shrug)


Jordan
 
www.cp-e.com said:
You guys are bringing up some legitimate points, but I just want to get one point across and then I'll leave you guys alone :D

A piggyback tuning controller is designed to control engine functions, which should result in some power gain when tuned properly. You can stick an engine controller and lose power if you don't tune the car well. So the power gains are not a reflection of how good the engine controller is, but rather how the car was tuned. So comparing engine controllers based on one-off dyno's is a risky game to play. Here's an illustration of my point:

runs.jpg


Here Nutari was kind enough to post dyno graphs of his tuning sessions with the SPEED3. His car isn't stock (I saw an ETS top mount intercooler but no mods list) and he didn't make as much power as BEGi. But why? They're the same car, the same brand dyno, and the same engine controller. The reason is because the cars were tuned differently. The tune makes horsepower, not the engine controller. In my opinion, the ease of use, functionality, cost, and realiability are how an engine controller should be judged, and not how much horsepower someone made using it.

Anyway, I was excited to share these numbers because it was the highest dyno I have seento date, and even better yet, it was on a tune that's suitable for a daily driver. There are no more boost spikes with our smart boost control, our unit got rid of the fuel cut our customer was experiencing, and he's overjoyed by the final result. We couldn't ask for more :D

Anyway, if you're curious to know what our Standback is capable of, I'll be happy to share some info with you guys. We also have the part numbers of the SPEED3 connectors, so we should be releasing a PnP option as well.

Questions? Comments? Flames? (shrug)


Jordan
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Very well answered and kept his cool while there was some good question about their prooduct, thanks.

p.s. how much is this going to cost?
 
civic si hb said:
Very well answered and kept his cool while there was some good question about their prooduct, thanks.

p.s. how much is this going to cost?
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Hey thank you! (cool)

We're currently selling the unit for $640, and it comes with everything you'll need to wire the unit into your car. It isn't on our website yet, so if you're interested in buying one you guys can call us directly and place an order over the phone, 301-576-6142.


Jordan
 
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Quick reminder though, when you compare that XEDE graph to the CP-E one, the CP-E one has CAI, turbo back catless exhaust, and ETS TMIC.
The XEDE one has just the ETS TMIC, everything else stock. Regardless of my mods, I'm not biased, also, I have CP-E products too, and their customer service is great <3
 
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