Brake Problem - Why don't Recall?

[wongpres]

ok..hold on let me comprehend this...(scratch) You want the same tires we hate? Michelins that increase the understeer of the car. In the V6 model you break traction in 1st and continue to loose it in 2nd till you shift to 3rd. there are gashes in the tread from every day use and sections missing from the tread from 1 autocross session. Michelin pilots aren't a tire you want. Get either summer only tires and rims for the good seasons and get snow on the stock rims. or you could just get a really good rated 4 season tire and say F it (2thumbs) .

There are many tires under the Michelin 'Pilot' marketing name. Just because the Pilot MXM4's line that is OEM with the N. American Mazda6 sucks doesn't mean the other tires under the 'Pilot' series suck. The 'Pilot' name is all marketing, just like 'Potenza' and 'Eagle' are for Bridgestone and Goodyear respectively - there are some good and no-so-good tire-lines under each of these series.

Mikey444 is slightly wrong because the Michelin Alpin series is actually a winter tire, but I'm sure he was referring to the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S, which would have been a much better choice for the Mazda3 17's than the Goodyears. However, as goldwing2000 says, it's a business decision (read: $$$ + politics).

To further prove that these are just business decisions, the Mazda3 17's for Euro-spec are Bridgestone Potenza's, and the JDM-spec Mazda3 16-inch is actually a Michelin tire (Michelin Preceda). As an FYI, the Bridgestone's couldn't be used for N. American 17's because they are summer only (and while Mazda can get away with a summer-only tire for say an RX-8, it wouldn't work for a Mazda3).

 

[Da 6]

As an FYI, the Bridgestone's couldn't be used for N. American 17's because they are summer only (and while Mazda can get away with a summer-only tire for say an RX-8, it wouldn't work for a Mazda3).

Dealerships here recomend you use the RX-8 as a "spirited weekend warrrier" vs a daily driver.

 

[Mikey444]

The Michelins have those problems but at least they are not as bad and have an as bad sutomer rating as the goodyear's. The Mich's got something in the 4's while the stock good year got a 2.2 out of 5.

 

[Mikey444]

but I'm sure he was referring to the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S, which would have been a much better choice for the Mazda3 17's than the Goodyears.QUOTE]

That's exactly what I meant.

 

[Mikey444]

Besides that, most people don't even look at their tires, much less know anything about how they perform.

Well, to me, that is dangerous. Because the more you know about everything on your car, the better you will be able to react in an emergency situation. I always apply the aviation theory to eerything I do. Knoledge is power and power is really useful.

 

[Da 6]

yeah if people did look at the tires on the car before they bought them most car companies would be putting better tires on there. Does it mater cause with the michelin MXV4 Plus I have are already $170USD a piece. So either way perfomance tires would be cheaper per corner and actuly provide something that should be at least commonly found called "dry traction"

 

[MASTERNC]

It actually happened to me this winter on dry roads, the brakes did not respond, everyone in front of me was panick braking for some reason, I responded imediately, held the pedal down as hard as I can, It did not respond much whatsoever, I hit the person in front of me, Absolutely nothing happened to either vehicle, thank G-d for that.

Same just happened with me, although it was low speed (while backing out) and fortunately the car did stop in time. Otherwise I would have hit a $90K Porsche SUV. I was shocked that a car with ABS would have such a poor braking response.

 

[ZippityZoomZoom]

Same just happened with me, although it was low speed (while backing out) and fortunately the car did stop in time. Otherwise I would have hit a $90K Porsche SUV. I was shocked that a car with ABS would have such a poor braking response.

Strange. I just had an incident where I had to lay on the brakes at about 35mph and I about sent my passengers through the front window. Amazing.

 

[Da 6]

which package did you have 15's and toyos or 17's and bad years's?

 

[ZippityZoomZoom]

which package did you have 15's and toyos or 17's and bad years's?

17s with the 'badyears'. Also the ABS and brake force system... Just did a 400 mile trip; most of it in the wet and the car can stop on a dime. (bow)

 

[MASTERNC]

which package did you have 15's and toyos or 17's and bad years's?

I have 16" Toyo tires.

 

[Da 6]

thing I learned is with no abs never fully let the pedal hit the floor and never turn the wheels

 

[exNeon]

sorry to revive an old thread. but my new 08 just had rear brake squealing noise when i was accelerating down a straight road. repeated the noise twice, sounded awful and like it was from the rear.
turned off the tcs and tried again, nothing, then tcs back on, nothing.

i read that some think this is due to something in between the pad/rotor and other seem to suggest that its due to cracks in the rotors.
what seems to be the more common cause of this awful noise?

 

[major error]

sorry to revive an old thread. but my new 08 just had rear brake squealing noise when i was accelerating down a straight road. repeated the noise twice, sounded awful and like it was from the rear.
turned off the tcs and tried again, nothing, then tcs back on, nothing.

i read that some think this is due to something in between the pad/rotor and other seem to suggest that its due to cracks in the rotors.
what seems to be the more common cause of this awful noise?

in your case, I think it could be a stuck pad--when the brake piston(s) retracts, the pad backing plate binds on the caliper...
Not a huge deal if you get it fixed right away, but if you let it go, it will lead to premature brake wear and eventually brake failure.

The only brake issue I've ever had was a nice film of rust on the rotors if I didn't drive the car for a day and it was humid.

 

[wlaquerre]

I have an 08 speed3 the last 250 miles every so often i get a metal grinding noise taking low speed turns sound like its coming from the front end any ideas. Dealer said it was a dust shield too close to the rotor and that they moved it back but still to noise continues. mind you car has less then 600 miles on it!

 

[Da 6]

I have an 08 speed3 the last 250 miles every so often i get a metal grinding noise taking low speed turns sound like its coming from the front end any ideas. Dealer said it was a dust shield too close to the rotor and that they moved it back but still to noise continues. mind you car has less then 600 miles on it!

If it's anything like my 03 mazda 6 the pads touched on tight turns. Temp fix then was shaved corners of pads. See dealer for warenty fix. My re enactment was hard left or right in reverse(parking in parking spot). If you can't re create it then they won't attempt to fix it.

 

[ehidle]

One way you can get the ball rolling is to file a complaint with the Department of Transportation about a failure in safety equipment (such as brakes) on your car.

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/Consumer.cfm

If they receive enough complaints about a particular model, they will begin an investigation. Any time a safety component on your vehicle breaks, or even operates abnormally, a report should be filed.

Cracks in your brake rotors, IMHO, definitely warrant a report.

 

[king57721]

Call Mazda USA to complain first... 1-800-222-5500

You can go to different .gov or .org to complain all you want, but just remember any re-call will hurt the re-sell value of your car, you are only hurting yourself... think twice before you do that.(hand)

 

[mazda3294]

yeah...i used to but then i got the rotors replaced and new brake pads...seems fine now

 

[ehidle]

Call Mazda USA to complain first... 1-800-222-5500

You can go to different .gov or .org to complain all you want, but just remember any re-call will hurt the re-sell value of your car, you are only hurting yourself... think twice before you do that.(hand)

If what you say is true, I would rather still go through the recall than get in a crash due to the failure of a safety-critical part. It's a little short-sighted to think that you'd rather preserve $100 of resale value than avoid a crash.