Big Brake kit....will it fit?

I'm not calling BS, but what are the advantages of having a FWD car with rear biased brakes? Maybe to help control fish-tailing??? (uhm)
 
Puckpimp71 said:
I'm not calling BS, but what are the advantages of having a FWD car with rear biased brakes? Maybe to help control fish-tailing??? (uhm)
I really don't think the MSP is rear biased. It just happens that the rear rotors diameter is larger in the rear. The rear rotors braking surface is still much smaller than the fronts no matter what the diameter.
 
t3ase said:
Actually, some protege models have 4 lug hubs, don't they? Just be sure you get the 5 lug. :)

that's why i said ES, P5, MP3 and MSP.... the DX & LX have 4 lug hubs :)

brake biased isn't controlled simply by rotor diameter. the front still has larger pistons.
 
Puckpimp71 said:
I'm not calling BS, but what are the advantages of having a FWD car with rear biased brakes? Maybe to help control fish-tailing??? (uhm)
With a slightly more rear brake bias you would be able to get the lock up of all four wheels to coincide closer in time. Fronts and then back closer in time. Make sense?

Because the front lock up sooner than the rear, you want the rear to lock up almost at the same time to help have more of an even braking feel. Helps the car the handle a little more neutral as well.
 
mx3ownzj00 said:
that's why i said ES, P5, MP3 and MSP.... the DX & LX have 4 lug hubs :)

brake biased isn't controlled simply by rotor diameter. the front still has larger pistons.
word, i didn't even catch that.
 
Just so you know, with a BBK you wont be able to run your snowtires anymore... All the BBK require a 17" wheel.
 
I like big breaks, but I don't like the big price. But you get what you pay for. I push my MSP hard enough to get brake fade quite a bit. My girlfriend hates the way I drive, she thinks that I'm a formula 1 driver when I drive. Hell, this car is so much fun to drive hard I just can't help it. Better brakes would certainly help out. I tell my girlfriend that I need bigger brakes because it's only going to protect her more from my driving... he he!

Big brakes would look so nice with my 18's now. My brakes look so much smaller now, perhaps it's just because I can see them more with my new rims.
 
TheJohnny said:
I like big breaks, but I don't like the big price. But you get what you pay for. I push my MSP hard enough to get brake fade quite a bit. My girlfriend hates the way I drive, she thinks that I'm a formula 1 driver when I drive. Hell, this car is so much fun to drive hard I just can't help it. Better brakes would certainly help out. I tell my girlfriend that I need bigger brakes because it's only going to protect her more from my driving... he he!

Big brakes would look so nice with my 18's now. My brakes look so much smaller now, perhaps it's just because I can see them more with my new rims.
maybe you should slow down and just drive safely?

the e-racer kit fits w/ 16" wheels too. i personally would go with the stoptech kit and a set of Hawk HPS pads or wait until Delsing(sp?) finishes their kit.
 
Slow down, yeah, I'm safe when I'm around other cars and I don't drive crazy that much with her in the car, I respect her life. But when I drive by myself, oh hell no, I love driving fast. I know I know, take it to the track and autocross. Thanks for the friendly works of advice.

Ok, big brakes. Yeah, I'm looking around but the prices are so high, I'm going to have to save up for this mod.
 
the e-racer kit is pretty cheap and i think there is one more wilwood kit floating around that is around 800. definately a big mod though.
 
Yeah, brakes are about a big of a mod, expense wise, as the wheels and tires themselves. I'll keep my eyes open, thanks.
 
My neighbor's company produced a big brake kit for our car. You can find their rotors on Apex Motorsports website. The name of the company is Rotora, and if you haven't heard of them, you must have never picked up a car magazine, hah. (lol2) He has 14" rotors and 4 piston calipers on all of his cars. (Lexus 2-door with 19"s, Infiniti G35 with 20"s, and an Eclipse turbo GSX with 19"s.) I already asked him about the hookup on the brake kit. I can't believe he didn't ask me when they were prototyping the kit. Perhaps it was done before I bought my car. At any rate, the rotors are available now. I think the big brake kit is actually StopTech, which is the same company. Let me know if anyone is interested, I have his business card with all of his information. He also lives a few houses down from me in Long Beach, so I see him around often. By the way, his Eclipse is insane, and was in a magazine (Turbo?) a few months ago. His G35 with Stillen supercharger, exhaust, and carbon fiber hood...will be in Sport Compact Car any time now. They just shot it a few days ago for the article. So he knows his stuff, and hopefully he can hook us up with a group buy or something. Let me know who would be interested. Thanks! (2thumbs)
 
TheJohnny said:
I like big breaks, but I don't like the big price. But you get what you pay for. I push my MSP hard enough to get brake fade quite a bit. My girlfriend hates the way I drive, she thinks that I'm a formula 1 driver when I drive. Hell, this car is so much fun to drive hard I just can't help it. Better brakes would certainly help out. I tell my girlfriend that I need bigger brakes because it's only going to protect her more from my driving... he he!

Big brakes would look so nice with my 18's now. My brakes look so much smaller now, perhaps it's just because I can see them more with my new rims.
Oh, and in Johnny's defense, I have KVR rotors and pads on my show car. (I like big breaks too, I am waiting for my big break into the animation industry. I think he meant big "brakes" though.) (wink) They are leaps and bounds better than any other brakes I have seen on any other car I have ever driven. It isn't even a "big brake kit". I just used cross-drilled/slotted rotors for better cooling, etc. The pads are a carbon fiber/semi-metallic compound, and they are awesome. If you get out of any other car, and hit my brakes, you will send the passenger munching on the dashboard. The brakes are instantaneous, it stops on a dime. They are quiet too, and the rotors don't rust as bad as stock rotors (our MSP are the worst for rust). I will be getting new rotors and pads as soon as I have the money. I like how the cross-drilled or slotted rotors look, they won't rust, and they will stop you much quicker and safer than stock brakes. So it is not that we are crazy drivers and need these brakes to offset our crazy driving style. We just like brakes that perform well, and we are actually being safer using them. The stop and go traffic around here kills brakes, so I need something I can depend on to stop me when someone slams on their brakes or cuts in front of me.
 
nictlg7 said:
My neighbor's company produced a big brake kit for our car. You can find their rotors on Apex Motorsports website. The name of the company is Rotora.
Can you link me? All I see is Rotora cross-drilled disc replacements in the OEM size. They aren't even the correct size for the MSP. Those don't constitute as a BBK...
 
How about PowerSlot slotted rotors? I know FM, ProPartsUSA and several other vendors sell them with Hawk brake pads. Does anyone have them installed?
 

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