Another escape recall.....

[CX-SV]

Ford's history with safety in past decades is poor. The old Explorer fiasco has their engineering fingerprints all over it, therefore they paid out billions.

I'm not suggesting current management operates in the same way. Sure it's nearly impossible to make a perfect new car. But better durability, reliability and safety testing can be done before first customer shipment, other major caremakers have done it successfully.

 

[DougNuts]

I forget all the details of the problems but there was something years back with the crown vic and town car where a sharp object would puncture the gas tank in a rear end collision.

There is a lot about this topic that you either don't know about or your bias is painting your opinion. Please review the links you posted and research further. Sure, the placement or protection of the tank could've been better and it was a lesson learned. However, to hold Ford legally responsible for what happens when a car is rear ended at 60mph, or when a police department rigs up stuff in the trunk to purposely puncture the gas tank or when cars from another manufacturer perform the same way is disingenuous as best.

 

[ta240]

There is a lot about this topic that you either don't know about or your bias is painting your opinion. Please review the links you posted and research further. Sure, the placement or protection of the tank could've been better and it was a lesson learned. However, to hold Ford legally responsible for what happens when a car is rear ended at 60mph, or when a police department rigs up stuff in the trunk to purposely puncture the gas tank or when cars from another manufacturer perform the same way is disingenuous as best.

Seriously? The one I remember the people were clearly alive after the impact and died due to the fire. A fire that Ford knew would likely happen in that situation. Ford had already issued the update kit to law enforcement but didn't bother telling anyone else.

A lesson learned? My point exactly, they learned it enough to warn some of their customers but not all.

Cars react in different ways in different situations and it is great that now Ford responds with "stop driving the car, we'll give you a loaner" when they find problems. I'm just saying it wasn't always that way.

bias painting my opinion? Sure, probably from a history of Ford not caring about it's customers. I worked at a Ford dealer where the sales manager actually told customers that the brake rotors on their new car would just continue to warp and he could keep turning them and then replacing them under warranty, or if they'd like to buy good quality ones from an aftermarket source and pay for them he'd install them at not charge and they wouldn't have any more problems and wouldn't have to come in to the dealer every few months.

And then there's the great thin film ignitions.

And the wonderful cruise control switch that was causing fires and it was the same switch with the same power to it all the time that caused the fire on multiple different years and models but they initially tried to only recall a small number of the cars.

 

[ta240]

other major caremakers have done it successfully.

It is what Toyota discovered: when you focus on being the biggest you forget your customers.