A little stumped

so i got it scanned at the dealership i work at and the code that came up is
P0139......well thats cuz my 2nd o2 is sensing air coming thorugh or soehting like that.....the code is understandable
now to get the smoking issue fixed, the tech i talked to today has already come to the conclusion of turbo, or rings

someone else had a problem with their O2 sensor not reading the values fast enough or something like that causing the CEl the be thrown. when you find out what the smoking is let me know. im going to take my car down to the dealership and throw a lie and say i saw smoke a few times to get them to check my turbo out for no good reason but to nip the problem in the butt if i have one, and because i hate my dealership and anything to give them more stress and a busier day for no cost is well worth the lie. (silly)
 
someone else had a problem with their O2 sensor not reading the values fast enough or something like that causing the CEl the be thrown. when you find out what the smoking is let me know. im going to take my car down to the dealership and throw a lie and say i saw smoke a few times to get them to check my turbo out for no good reason but to nip the problem in the butt if i have one, and because i hate my dealership and anything to give them more stress and a busier day for no cost is well worth the lie. (silly)
hahahhaahahahahahahaha omg thats funny, must have had it bad from your dealer...mine stuck it to me on the price(it was the only silver one in town at the time) but they are cool about mods, so i thought i will save the bomb for later...lol
 
hahahhaahahahahahahaha omg thats funny, must have had it bad from your dealer...mine stuck it to me on the price(it was the only silver one in town at the time) but they are cool about mods, so i thought i will save the bomb for later...lol

yea they arent to bad about the mods. a buddy of mine had plenty done and until he changed a major component of the engine (FMIC) they kept his warranty until. they've seen mine also and they havent said a word so....

same here with the price man. i tried to get them to go a little lower so i could get the payments under "out of control" and they sales manager spouted some bs about how they cant get enough of them, and theres tons of people willing to pay that price so he cant do a thing for me blah blah blah. not that thy arent popular but seriously guy....help your customers. dont bs me, im no retard.....so retard me payed the price. lol. and now theres been a red one sitting on their lot for about a month now with no lookers. ass. oh and btw....when the sticker says the crash tests are NA for side impact...WRONG. its poor. dont let them fool you. i told the sales rep and he was like...im a stupid sales rep and everybody elses valid crash tests with test dummies and giant machines and tons of chinese people with laptops and high tech equipment are cancer victims that spread diseases and eat new born children are invalid. whatever deutshe. they ripped me off on an oil change too. they didnt change the filter at all. i changed it myself the next time and everything was the same. 45 bills for an hour drive to my dealership. nice. then they washed my detailed car with a pressure washer and didnt dry it off. thanks guys. good job.
 
ohh now thats a good question, i will have to find out about that monday, is there a differenet part # for the revised one?
 
ohh now thats a good question, i will have to find out about that monday, is there a differenet part # for the revised one?

He didn't ask if you are getting THE revised one. He asked if you were getting A revised one. A revised one may not exist. :)
 
there IS a revised part # for turbo replacements. the problem is that nobody seems to know WHAT was revised !!
 
Problems like bad/defective turbo seals causing smoke are the kind of thing that should be caught pre-production, in the development stages. When there is an issue like this that's caught after production starts, things get pretty confusing. I work for Ford engineering and there are always parts that have to be tweaked or altered after a car is released, due to issues like this that no one saw coming. For the parts I handle, all that happens for an updated part is a very sutle part number change called a suffix bump. The base part number stays exactly the same in order to designate the part within its respective category. On top of that, the service part number (the one the dealer uses) is different from the engineering part numbers! So there's a chance that the dealer's part number would be identical, even though the turbo has been revised.

Moral of the story, late changes like this always happen, but they always happen for a reason. Unfortunately there are usually only a handful of engineers that are directly responsible who are really familiar with the intricacies of a change. That makes it next to impossible for the rest of us to know if something like a turbo seal change was made and if new cars are now being built with a revised part, or if a revised part even exists.

someone else had a problem with their O2 sensor not reading the values fast enough or something like that causing the CEl the be thrown. when you find out what the smoking is let me know. im going to take my car down to the dealership and throw a lie and say i saw smoke a few times to get them to check my turbo out for no good reason but to nip the problem in the butt if i have one, and because i hate my dealership and anything to give them more stress and a busier day for no cost is well worth the lie. (silly)
Most of us aren't great fans of our dealers, but remember that warranty work just gets billed back to Mazda. The dealer isn't paying out of pocket for this work. Warranties are technically Mazda's engineering or process errors, so they pay to repair them. If there's nothing wrong with your car, your dealer will be wasting Mazda's money to repair nothing. Just an FYI :) All that being said, I'm still paranoid about my car and want things checked out if I hear of a common problem, even if my car shows no symptoms.



This was my very long way of subbing to this thread because there's a ton of good info here! (thumb)
 
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The dealer has little to no control over what acutally gets warrenteed. With the company I work for, dealerships actually have to send the case in to get it approved. If a dealership is up to date on training, then they can good will it. Most large dealerships get a free pass on having warrenty work approved, but if they start doing tons of work and driving up large costs for the manufacturer to pay, then they'll end up getting audited for their claims.
 
Hey just read this in a related post. Probably old news but this whole issue is new to me since I only just bought my 08 MS3 late last summer.

I just got my car back with the new turbo and NO smoke! I had my wife drive behind me as we drove home and she verified under accelaration and at stops that no smoke was evident.

Previous to the turbo replacement, I always noticed that my boost gauge was showing me that the old turbo would spike around 15 PSI and dropped down to about 11-12 PSI. Now, no spikes.

My service advisor stated that Mazda has updated the turbo seals and my VIN fell within the suspected ranged of cars with the "old" version, hence the replacement of the turbo.

This was contrary to what the head tech. at the dealership had suspected the problem was a leaky valve guide.
quote comes from page 3 of following thread http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123682442&page=3

Those of you with smoke, maybe check with your dealer, have them contact the hotline and see if your VIN resides in the "old turbo seal" range.

Good Luck!
 
once i figure out the part #'s i will post them
maybe ill walk down to service today and harass them for it
 

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