A few engine rebuild questions...

[msp5]

I plan on putting my protege away for the winter and rebuilding the engine. so i have a few questions.
1)what is the best forged rod, piston combo.
2)looking at a fidanza flywheel and a stage 2 clutch.Which company clutch would you reccomend.
3) are the mazdaspeed and regular protege crankshafts the same part number.

thanks for the input
-jake

 

[dandan2]

the absolute best combo would be pauter rods and wiseco pistons. i got the k1 long rods and wiseco pistons. ive seen the arias pistons crack. k1 is ur best bet, pauters are a bit pricy.

 

[thecrash91]

1) Pauter and arias
2) I have exedy with no complaints
3) I believe all 3rd gen proteges had forged crankshaft so i believe so but id wait for another person to chime in

 

[dandan2]

most all the fsde crankshafts are forged, and i wouldnt reccomend arias over wiseco. ive seen many cases where the arias pistons cracked and broke apart. ive yet to see a wiseco piston do that. but as for the pauter rods, they are the best but will run u nearly 800 dollars for the rods alone. i payed only 925 for my k1 long rods and coated wiseco pistons.

 

[yudkib]

cp pistons split the price difference and are what a lot of people are going with now. i would not go with arias due to cracking issues from aggressive timing maps. if your goal is 400-450whp+, i would go with wiseco/pauter. otherwise, cp/k1 should be fine.
ACT clutches are solid - look at your intended hp goal and pick the clutch to match. i never see complaints about them, i have seen some people unhappy with the exedy decision. their stage 1 is good but above that is a little more iffy.

 

[joka1]

1: Pauter rods, wiesco pistons
2: I have the ACT stage 3 clitch with the Fidanza flywheel, It is working good for me so far
3: Dont know

 

[yudkib]

3.) yes

 

[Silverspeed2015]

im running wiseco/k1, as for k1 i know when i bought them there were short supply, im not sure if thats still an issue because i bought them in march/april 2010. i wish i would have went with the pauter rods since i had the money at the time, and im glad that i didn't go with arias pistons now hearing about the cracking issues

 

[msp5]

cool thanks for the input. im looking at the 300-325 hp range only because it mu summer daily.well it looks like pauter rods and weisco pistons it is and the act clutch set up.The only reason i asked about the crank is because im buying a new one for the build just so i dont have to use over sized bearings if it needs to be machined.

thanks again for the input

 

[Emeryatstm]

Your crank will probably not need to be machined if you have not spun a bearing. A simple polish will more than likely take care of it. Bring it to the machine shop before you waste money on a new one.

I do not have much experience with this platform yet but ACT seems to be a pretty reliable idea when you are thinking about a clutch that needs to hold mild power levels.

-Em

 

[yudkib]

unless you have a fairly unlimited budget, i dont know why youre going with pauter/wiseco. you can save close to 500 bucks by going with CP and K1, and theyre more than sufficient to handle your power goals.
similarly, i dont know why you would go with exedy stage 2. they arent even rated to hold that much power! get the ACT extreme street clutch - rated at 340, and from everything ive read, a better clutch all around.

 

[808MP5]

idk much about cracking pistons... but i doubt it was the pistons fault

 

[yudkib]

im pretty sure maxx mazda cracked three or four arias pistons. im also pretty damn positive hes one of the most knowledgeable people on these boards.

 

[808MP5]

im pretty sure maxx mazda cracked three or four arias pistons. im also pretty damn positive hes one of the most knowledgeable people on these boards.

hehe and i thought that person was you... i kid i kid

 

[msp5]

unless you have a fairly unlimited budget, i dont know why youre going with pauter/wiseco. you can save close to 500 bucks by going with CP and K1, and theyre more than sufficient to handle your power goals.
similarly, i dont know why you would go with exedy stage 2. they arent even rated to hold that much power! get the ACT extreme street clutch - rated at 340, and from everything ive read, a better clutch all around.

I figure if i go with the better stuff from the begining, andif i ever wanted more power i have parts that will hold up to the abuse.yes the act clutch set up is what im going with

 

[Alamo1]

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[justanothermp5]

1)pauter and wiseco, thats what i have, love it so far
3)yes, all PROTEGE's are forged crank, other cars, like the 626 or the probe, may not be depending on the year

 

[HighSpeed]

I went Spec 2+, I have always liked Spec and they are a 15 min drive from my house. My clutch doesn't feel heavier than stock by much, but definitely has some bite to it.

 

[justanothermp5]

oh yea, and i have a spec stage 1...dont really like it, but its not specs fault at all
back when i had it put in (mistake, did all my own work since then) they didnt resurface the flywheel, so it really chatters ALOT

 

[powderider87]

Crossover's forged shortblock kit.