'86 626 Radio Question

[archinstl]

This may be my first and last post on this site (save for a Thank You post).

I owned an '86 626 LX Touring Sedan for 19 years, giving it up only when the sheet metal around both rear spring mounts was found to be Swiss cheese during the Missouri safety inspection in the Summer of 2004. The several estimates of cutting out metal and welding were $3K plus, so it was not doable, and therefore donated to a charity.

It was a shame, as it had passed the stringent emissions inspection with flying colors, still got 30+ mpg in suburban driving, the AC still "blew cold", the interior was immaculate (no kids), and there was no exterior rust, and had only 90K miles. Plus, I really loved this car and it still looked kinda exotic, what with the plastic I had added back when it was new, plus some shaving/insignia removal. See pix in the Photo/Video section.

My question is for help on the wiring for the stock '86 Fujitsu radio/tape deck. A friend removed it for me, and unfortunately did not mark anything, and, apparently left several plugs in the dash, for reasons known only to him. I want to use it in a hobby car, an '86 Tercel 4WD SR5 Wagon (actually, an '83 version of this had preceded the 626). I have been all over the 'Net looking for information on which wire goes where, and what goes in the empty receptacles, to no avail. I've used every premutation/combination of the year, make, model, and even "Fujitsu". The various Chilton, etc. manuals have been of no help either. Obviously I do not need the power antenna connection, whichever it is. I have a diagram for the Tercel.

I would REALLY appreciate your help. The radio did work before removal, and as I am retired, I need to economize a bit. A PM is fine, if you prefer that mode.
Again - Thanks to all.
Tom M.

 

[solid_snake]

there should be a blue plug with 4 pins(bottom right corner), those are the rear speaker connections, there should be also a white plug with 4 pins(upper right corner), those are the front speaker connections, and a 1 pin plug is for the memory/battery connection, and a 2 pin plug that is for the ignition and the illumination, hope this helps, and sorry for the crappy illustration

 

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solid_snake -
Thanks for the courtesy of the swift reply; I apologize for my tardiness in my reply.
Well, I must admit I am kinda still confused:
> The upper right white plug which I think you said was for the front speakers has a total of 8 wires; two in each quadrant of the plug. I kinda thought these were for all 4 speakers, as I thought each speaker had 2 wires running to it. If this plug is for the front 2 speakers only, don't I have 4 extra wires then?
> The lower right blue plug which you said was for the rear speakers has 1 wire in each quadrant, for a total of 4 wires. This seems understandable, esp. with your drawing.
> The missing top plug has 1 pin; this is the mem/batt connection?
> The missing "middle" right plug has 3 pins; is this for the ignition and illumination, which you mention has 2 pins?
> Lastly, the lower left wire (Bl/Rd) is from a black 1-pin plug. What is this for? Is this for the power antenna - it must be controlled from somewhere - I do not need this. However, the only pix I found in a Chilton's of the era showed a Bl/Bk wire going from the radio directly to the Power Antenna relay, and a Bl/Wt wire going to the "Acc relay" and also to 2 spots on the Power Antenna relay.
I really apologize for my obtuseness, and I do thank you for the reply. I'm not a bad mechanic (operated a bicycle store for 30 years), but I'm at sea when it comes to audio stuff.
Tom M.

 

[MazKid]

Oh man, you're in STL? If you posted soon enough we could have saved your car. My brother has a '87 626 and the right rear wheel well was rusting like yours...we got some scrap metal and some old metal shelfs, and just welded some crap in. Just used the stronger metal bits stretching from the floor to the top of the strut mount, then cut pieces out of the shelf and bent it in the shape of the strut tower and welded that all the way around. It looked like piss but was very strong after, and the trunk panels covered it up. Took just a few hours of cutting and welding.

 

[archinstl]

MazKid -
Thanks for the note of commiseration - did you see the photos in the Photo/Video section? I was pretty proud of that car...
Bommarito was where I had all work done that I could not do - bought it new there in '86. They were always straightforward with me (maybe part of that, while not dissin' em, was that Frank B. was a long-time and very loyal customer of mine at the bicycle store I owned near his store in Ellisville - he bought, I think, 13 bikes over the years). Anyway, they did not try to tell me to fix it with them for the repair $, nor did they steer a new/used car salesman to me to try and sell a replacement car; they told me to just donate it to a charity for the tax deduction. That seemed pretty honest.
Tom M.

 

[MazKid]

I've heard mixed reviews about Bommarito's service dept. I work at Fusz Mazda, where my dad is the shop foreman. You would have had to take the car to the body shop and it would have cost a lot. The only other thing that could have been done would be to go to a junkyard and prey you find a 626 without rust in that area. Those 626s are actually getting rare for the junkyards now though.

Actually, I don't know if you want it, but my brother is selling his '87 sedan. He's still fixing some of the body work...the interior is mint, car was maintained from day 1 by my dad...15" 626 GT wheels, radio w/equalizer, European foglight grill, etc. I know it's not as cool as the 5 door Turing sedan though.

 

[archinstl]

MazKid -
Hey - thanks for the note and offer about your brother's 626, but > > >
I bought the '86 Tercel 4WD Wagon in April to replace the Mazda - I owned one of these just prior to the 626, and really liked it. It's from TN, and is totally rust-free (these Tercels were kinda rust buckets north of the Mason-Dixon line...), plus it's easy to work on.
Incidentally, since you work at Fusz, do you have access to the info I need on the radio?
Junior Baumann is your Dad's equivalent at Bommarito, I guess; I presume they are acquainted after all of these years - I think Junior's been the foreman there since day one, or at least b4 I bought mine in '86.
Odd that you are at Fusz - Fusz Toy here in Kirkwood is where I bought my '83 Tercel and where I get my OEM-necessary parts (also Butler in Inday-better prices), and Fusz Dodge is where I bought my '88 Ram 50/Mitsu p'up in '88 (which I still have).
Tom M.

 

[MazKid]

I think I have a '87 626 shop manual at home...I'm at Fusz now(the dead zone!) though, so I can't scan any of the pages.

I honestly don't understand your need to put this radio in your Tercel. That type of Mazda radio sounds like piss. Weak. I'd say try to find a Toyota radio from Pick N Pull. You might get lucky and find a newer Camry there...I might go tomarrow if my friend needs to, so I can check for you, possibly fitment as well. It could be a bolt-in deal, and you'd have a good sounding radio for like $30. You can get them cheaper at the other yards, but they don't have a return policy if it doesn't work. I'd list that Mazda radio on E-bay or in the Bargain Box, it might get you $10 if you're lucky.

 

[archinstl]

MazKid -
You make a good point - I was just looking to save a few.
I will await your reply, and Thank You.
The dimensions I have available in the Tercel vertical "console" hole are 6 3/4" wide x 4" tall and 6+" deep. The 626 radio/deck also was the same dimension. I don't need a CD player - none at home, either.
Again - Thank You.
Tom M.
P.S. While irrelevant, we have quite a site at www.tercel4WD.com.