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Some more work on the new to me Mazda 2 to Get All New Fluids in the Car & develop a Benchmark
Neither myself nor Mazda247.com are responsible for your skills workmanship or errors.
The Mazda 2 came with a newly fitted (2 weeks in the car <100km) Replacement Radiator.
“Brand: FloKool, Model: RAD1476” (suits Auto), Aluminium Core, resin plastic Top & Bottom.
Enquires through Parts Supplier to Manufacturer confirm it has SILICON Gaskets between the Aluminium Core & the resin plastic Top & Bottom.
STICKER on RADIATOR - FloKool Part No RAD1476 Date Code AUG2003 MADE IN INDONESIA
Description
Tank Material Plastic
Core Material Aluminium
Core Width 555mm
Core Height 350mm
Core Thickness 24mm
Oil Cooler Size 275mm
Core Rows 1
Developed for the New Zealand and Australian market
Built to meet or exceed OE specs
Superior cooling ability
Light weight
2-year or 50,000km warranty (whichever occurs first)
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The Mazda 2 came with FL22 from new Japan Factory.
A MAZDA Radiator Cap ND 1.1. FL22 is fitted
(noted AUD$67 from Dealership Parts, expensive compared to Toyota parts.)
Pg8-17 MAZDA 2 OWNERS MANUAL
"Soft Demin Water in the Coolant
Top up with the correct Coolant Mixture, Don’t use Water Only
Engine has ALUMINIUM Parts & MUST be protected by an ethylene-glycol-based coolant
NO alcohol, methanol, Borate or Silicate"
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Previous owner had put RED SCA House brand coolant in the car.
SCA Long Life Red Coolant Concentrate 5 Litre
Details
https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...re/591864.html
Features:
Premium quality organic acid technology (OAT) offers long life anti-freeze/anti-boil protection
Carboxylate technology (a SUB FORM of 2-EHA) coolant contains no silicates, borates, phosphates, nitrites, nitrates or amines
Red Type "A" concentrate
Temperature Range (50% Mix): Freeze -36.2°C, Boil 108.2°C
???????
So off down the Coolant Rabbit Hole to work out if it was suitable for use in the MAZDA 2.
2-Ethylhexanoic acid = 2-EHA
SCA Tech Advice confirms their RED & GREEN SCA House Brand Coolant contains a small amount of 2-EHA.....does not disclose that on the bottle
Carboxylate technology (a SUB FORM of 2-EHA)
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MAZDA Genuine FL22 Premix 55/45
MAZDA Part No: K018 W0 122L5
Understand FL22 is a P-HOAT 2nd Generation & does not contain 2-EHA, however its formulation has changed over time.
Detail from the FL22 5Litre Container Labelling & MSDS
Refer to SDS 464322
Bar Code 9310084030543
P002159/F
3415489
Contains: 451ml/L Ethylene Glycol 10mg/kg of bittering agent Denatonium Benzoate
Mazda FL22 is a premixed formula ready to use. Do not add additional water to this coolant
Do not store in vehicle once opened
Keep out of Reach of Children....& Muppets
Manufactured in Australia for MAZDA AUSTRALIA
Packed in Australia by Castrol Australia Pty Ltd
MAZDA Part No: K018 W0 122L5 5lt 55/45 Premix: AUD$180
Fig[1] Mazda Genuine FL22 Oz Front
Fig[2] Mazda Genuine FL22 Oz Rear
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FL22 coolant is a long-life coolant, 10yrs / 250,000kms
Absolute maximum to first change "in theory" NOTED it is outside the warranty period & beyond the typical first ownership so not a MAZDA Dealership problem.....
How many 10yr old Mazda's are being driven by 1st owner & still being serviced by Mazda Dealerships or an independent workshop using MAZDA Specific Fluids ie Not Multi-Vehicle Fluids?
Suggest less than 5% of the new car sales, most leave "MAZDA Dealership Service Schemes" at 5Years or 7Years at the end of the "Capped Price Service" schedule & less than 160,000kms.
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MAZDA Genuine FL22 Premix 55/45
MAZDA Part No: K018 W0 122L5
Ingredients: Ethylene Glycol (107-21-1), Water (7732-18-5), Diethylene Glycol (111-46-6), Potassium Hydroxide (1310-58-3), Proprietary Inhibitors (NJTSRN 217).
No 2-EHA
MAZDA FL22 Coolant MSDS "CH-121 Rev 1 Dated 2011_09_15"
ETHYLENE GLYCOL (107-21-1) 45% to 55%
WATER (7732-18-5) 40% to 50%
DIETHYLENE GLYCOL (111-46-6) <3%
HYDRATED INORGANIC ACID, ORGANIC ACID SALTS “Proprietary” (Not Available) <3%
MAZDA FL22 Coolant "MSDS 87032_3-23 Dated 2023_01_02"
Product Name: Mazda Extended Life Premium Pre‐diluted Antifreeze/Coolant TYPE FL‐22
SDS No: 87032
Mazda Canada Inc. Vogell Road 55, Richmond Hill – Canada, L4B 3K5
Ethylene glycol (107-21-1) 30% - 60% [then on pg8 states 50% by Wt]
Hydrated inorganic acid, organic acid salts (Not Available) <5%
Diethylene glycol (111-46-6) 1% to 3%
pH: 7 to 9
Boiling Point 79 Deg C?? (possibly the "non pressurised Temp" else the spec is different to Oz)
NA GHS SDS 2015 (Can, US)
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https://penriteoil.com.au/products/g...nt-concentrate
Penrite Green
GLYSANTIN G48
Type 'A' Ethylene glycol, Anti-Freeze Anti-Boil
HYBRID (HOAT - Hybrid Organic Acid Technology)
Phosphate, Amine and Nitrite free.
50/50 Boil: +109 Deg C
Contains Borate
https://penriteoil.com.au/products/r...nt-concentrate
Penrite RED
GLYSANTIN G40
Type 'A' Ethylene glycol, Anti-Freeze Anti-Boil
Advanced OAT (Organic Acid Technology)
Phosphate, Amine, Borate and Nitrite free.
50/50 Boil: +109 Deg C
Contains Silicate
https://penriteoil.com.au/products/b...nt-concentrate
Penrite BLUE
GLYSANTIN G30
Type 'A' Ethylene glycol, Anti-Freeze Anti-Boil
Advanced OAT (Organic Acid Technology)
Silicate, Phosphate, Amine, Borate and Nitrite free
50/50 Boil: +109 Deg C
Reportedly Penrite Green G48 is recommended for the Mazda 2
Problem is Penrite Green contains Borate & both Penrite Green & Penrite BLUE Coolant contains a small amount of 2-EHA = 2-Ethylhexanoic acid
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Burson Long Life Blue Coolant
Ethylene Glycol Based
Part no: BBCC5L
Contains: % by Wt. 1,2-Ethanediol (107-21-1) 30 ≤ 60%, Denatonium Benzoate (3734-33-6) <1%, *Non-hazardous ingredients Balance.
Ethylene Glycol: 1043g/lt
Denatonium Benzoate: 10mg/kg (Bittering Agent)
50/50 Anti Boil Protection: Plus 129 Deg C
Ph: 7.7Typ
Specific Gravity: 1.065 at 20°C typ.
MSDS: 19 September 2023
AS2108-2004 Engine Coolant Type A, ASTM D3306, BS6580:2010, JIS K2234-206 Class II
Reportedly contains a small amount of 2-EHA
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Royal Lubricants OAT Glycool coolant 6511 Concentrate (Green)
Phosphate free formulation
States Suitable for: Mazda: Ethylene Glycol Coolant, FL22
Reserve Alkalinity (mL) 4.6
pH 7.7 - 8.6
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AVALANCHE FL22 PreMix - ethylene-glycol based
pH 8
Boil 110Deg C
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Repco RED House Brand Coolant
https://www.repco.com.au/oils-fluids...d05/p/A5430005
RCONRE005
OAT Type A red coolant
Contains a small amount of 2-EHA
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FORD Motorcraft used to sell:
Motorcraft Specialty Green VC-10-A2 Concentrate = FL22
However, that is no longer available in Oz & has been superseded by FORD Motorcraft YELLOW:
FORD Motorcraft VC-13-G FIRNo 200142 Concentrated WSS_97B57_A1 01, YELLOW Coolant
Ethylene glycol (107-21-1), 2,2-Oxydiethanol (11-46-6), Sodium 2-ethylhexanoate (19766-89-3), Water (7732018-5); sodium neodecanoalte (31548-27-3).
50/50 Boil: +129 Deg C
Concentrate 3.78lt: AUD$70
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Toyota Super Long Life PINK Coolant 50/50
Extended Life Japanese Coolant uses Phosphates for fast protection (no silicates) & a single organic acid (Sebacate) & other inhibitors.
No 2-EHA
Water (7732-18-5)
Ethylene Glycol (107-21-1)
Diethylene Glycol (111-46-6)
Sebacic Acid (111-20-6)
Potassium Hydroxide (1310-58-3)
Initial boiling point and boiling range : 108 °C (ASTM D1120)
pH : 7,7 (ASTM D1287)
50/50 Premix 5lt: AUD$42 (or AUD$36 ea when you buy 4 of)
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Others are discussing the problem as well:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/61...mment-10326571
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/th...oolant.365131/
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/th...native.319455/
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The options are full flush, remove thermostat & blow out the block with compressed air & then up to 5.4lt required.... (Else if the cooling system is in reasonable condition, you may decide not to take the thermostat out, & undertake multiple Demin Water Flushes, do the residual % calc & then measure your outcome to confirm the % outcomes achieved):
[a] Toyota Super Long Life PINK Coolant 50/50 Premix using 2 of 5lt = AUD$84
or
['b] FORD Motorcraft VC-13-G FIRNo 200142 Concentrate WSS_97B57_A1 01, YELLOW Coolant using 1 of 3.78lt = AUD$70
or
[c] MAZDA FL22 55/45 Premix using 2 of 5lt = AUD$360
Concentrate makes the flush & achieving a 50/50 outcome easier than 50/50 premix.
###########
Interestingly, Independent Workshops that use Penrite Fluids have the same recommendation as it provides "the Penrite Warranty".
penriteoil.com.au/products/green-oem-coolant-concentrate
Penrite Green
GLYSANTIN G48
OEM-Coolant-Concentrate
Type 'A' Ethylene glycol, Anti-Freeze Anti-Boil
HYBRID (HOAT - Hybrid Organic Acid Technology)
Phosphate, Amine and Nitrite free.
50/50 Boil: +109 Deg C
Was concerned that it contains Borate.
SFAIAA It also contains 2-EHA
#######
Noted:
FCSD%20Motorcraft%20Yellow%20Antifreeze-Coolant%20Backward%20Compatability.pdf
2020_08 FCSD Motorcraft YELLOW Antifreeze-Coolant Backward Compatibility with GREEN WSS-M97B55-A
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So what are others doing when they are required to completely flush the MAZDA cooling system?
Are you paying AUD$360 for Mazda FL22 Premix to flush all of the previous coolant out?….surely not?
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Noted.....I've changed the coolant to Toyota Super Long Life PINK Coolant 50/50 Premix with a Demin Flush. Will Post a Separate Thread.
For my 1.5lt Auto having done the % calcs & measured the outcome %'s I think its 5lt total volume with 400ml in the reservoir & 4.6lt in Block & Heater Core.
Rob
Neither myself nor Mazda247.com are responsible for your skills workmanship or errors.
The Mazda 2 came with a newly fitted (2 weeks in the car <100km) Replacement Radiator.
“Brand: FloKool, Model: RAD1476” (suits Auto), Aluminium Core, resin plastic Top & Bottom.
Enquires through Parts Supplier to Manufacturer confirm it has SILICON Gaskets between the Aluminium Core & the resin plastic Top & Bottom.
STICKER on RADIATOR - FloKool Part No RAD1476 Date Code AUG2003 MADE IN INDONESIA
Description
Tank Material Plastic
Core Material Aluminium
Core Width 555mm
Core Height 350mm
Core Thickness 24mm
Oil Cooler Size 275mm
Core Rows 1
Developed for the New Zealand and Australian market
Built to meet or exceed OE specs
Superior cooling ability
Light weight
2-year or 50,000km warranty (whichever occurs first)
###########
The Mazda 2 came with FL22 from new Japan Factory.
A MAZDA Radiator Cap ND 1.1. FL22 is fitted
(noted AUD$67 from Dealership Parts, expensive compared to Toyota parts.)
Pg8-17 MAZDA 2 OWNERS MANUAL
"Soft Demin Water in the Coolant
Top up with the correct Coolant Mixture, Don’t use Water Only
Engine has ALUMINIUM Parts & MUST be protected by an ethylene-glycol-based coolant
NO alcohol, methanol, Borate or Silicate"
###########
Previous owner had put RED SCA House brand coolant in the car.
SCA Long Life Red Coolant Concentrate 5 Litre
Details
https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...re/591864.html
Features:
Premium quality organic acid technology (OAT) offers long life anti-freeze/anti-boil protection
Carboxylate technology (a SUB FORM of 2-EHA) coolant contains no silicates, borates, phosphates, nitrites, nitrates or amines
Red Type "A" concentrate
Temperature Range (50% Mix): Freeze -36.2°C, Boil 108.2°C
???????
So off down the Coolant Rabbit Hole to work out if it was suitable for use in the MAZDA 2.
2-Ethylhexanoic acid = 2-EHA
SCA Tech Advice confirms their RED & GREEN SCA House Brand Coolant contains a small amount of 2-EHA.....does not disclose that on the bottle
Carboxylate technology (a SUB FORM of 2-EHA)
###########
MAZDA Genuine FL22 Premix 55/45
MAZDA Part No: K018 W0 122L5
Understand FL22 is a P-HOAT 2nd Generation & does not contain 2-EHA, however its formulation has changed over time.
Detail from the FL22 5Litre Container Labelling & MSDS
Refer to SDS 464322
Bar Code 9310084030543
P002159/F
3415489
Contains: 451ml/L Ethylene Glycol 10mg/kg of bittering agent Denatonium Benzoate
Mazda FL22 is a premixed formula ready to use. Do not add additional water to this coolant
Do not store in vehicle once opened
Keep out of Reach of Children....& Muppets
Manufactured in Australia for MAZDA AUSTRALIA
Packed in Australia by Castrol Australia Pty Ltd
MAZDA Part No: K018 W0 122L5 5lt 55/45 Premix: AUD$180
Fig[1] Mazda Genuine FL22 Oz Front
Fig[2] Mazda Genuine FL22 Oz Rear
############
FL22 coolant is a long-life coolant, 10yrs / 250,000kms
Absolute maximum to first change "in theory" NOTED it is outside the warranty period & beyond the typical first ownership so not a MAZDA Dealership problem.....
How many 10yr old Mazda's are being driven by 1st owner & still being serviced by Mazda Dealerships or an independent workshop using MAZDA Specific Fluids ie Not Multi-Vehicle Fluids?
Suggest less than 5% of the new car sales, most leave "MAZDA Dealership Service Schemes" at 5Years or 7Years at the end of the "Capped Price Service" schedule & less than 160,000kms.
############
MAZDA Genuine FL22 Premix 55/45
MAZDA Part No: K018 W0 122L5
Ingredients: Ethylene Glycol (107-21-1), Water (7732-18-5), Diethylene Glycol (111-46-6), Potassium Hydroxide (1310-58-3), Proprietary Inhibitors (NJTSRN 217).
No 2-EHA
MAZDA FL22 Coolant MSDS "CH-121 Rev 1 Dated 2011_09_15"
ETHYLENE GLYCOL (107-21-1) 45% to 55%
WATER (7732-18-5) 40% to 50%
DIETHYLENE GLYCOL (111-46-6) <3%
HYDRATED INORGANIC ACID, ORGANIC ACID SALTS “Proprietary” (Not Available) <3%
MAZDA FL22 Coolant "MSDS 87032_3-23 Dated 2023_01_02"
Product Name: Mazda Extended Life Premium Pre‐diluted Antifreeze/Coolant TYPE FL‐22
SDS No: 87032
Mazda Canada Inc. Vogell Road 55, Richmond Hill – Canada, L4B 3K5
Ethylene glycol (107-21-1) 30% - 60% [then on pg8 states 50% by Wt]
Hydrated inorganic acid, organic acid salts (Not Available) <5%
Diethylene glycol (111-46-6) 1% to 3%
pH: 7 to 9
Boiling Point 79 Deg C?? (possibly the "non pressurised Temp" else the spec is different to Oz)
NA GHS SDS 2015 (Can, US)
###########
https://penriteoil.com.au/products/g...nt-concentrate
Penrite Green
GLYSANTIN G48
Type 'A' Ethylene glycol, Anti-Freeze Anti-Boil
HYBRID (HOAT - Hybrid Organic Acid Technology)
Phosphate, Amine and Nitrite free.
50/50 Boil: +109 Deg C
Contains Borate
https://penriteoil.com.au/products/r...nt-concentrate
Penrite RED
GLYSANTIN G40
Type 'A' Ethylene glycol, Anti-Freeze Anti-Boil
Advanced OAT (Organic Acid Technology)
Phosphate, Amine, Borate and Nitrite free.
50/50 Boil: +109 Deg C
Contains Silicate
https://penriteoil.com.au/products/b...nt-concentrate
Penrite BLUE
GLYSANTIN G30
Type 'A' Ethylene glycol, Anti-Freeze Anti-Boil
Advanced OAT (Organic Acid Technology)
Silicate, Phosphate, Amine, Borate and Nitrite free
50/50 Boil: +109 Deg C
Reportedly Penrite Green G48 is recommended for the Mazda 2
Problem is Penrite Green contains Borate & both Penrite Green & Penrite BLUE Coolant contains a small amount of 2-EHA = 2-Ethylhexanoic acid
###########
Burson Long Life Blue Coolant
Ethylene Glycol Based
Part no: BBCC5L
Contains: % by Wt. 1,2-Ethanediol (107-21-1) 30 ≤ 60%, Denatonium Benzoate (3734-33-6) <1%, *Non-hazardous ingredients Balance.
Ethylene Glycol: 1043g/lt
Denatonium Benzoate: 10mg/kg (Bittering Agent)
50/50 Anti Boil Protection: Plus 129 Deg C
Ph: 7.7Typ
Specific Gravity: 1.065 at 20°C typ.
MSDS: 19 September 2023
AS2108-2004 Engine Coolant Type A, ASTM D3306, BS6580:2010, JIS K2234-206 Class II
Reportedly contains a small amount of 2-EHA
###########
Royal Lubricants OAT Glycool coolant 6511 Concentrate (Green)
Phosphate free formulation
States Suitable for: Mazda: Ethylene Glycol Coolant, FL22
Reserve Alkalinity (mL) 4.6
pH 7.7 - 8.6
##########
AVALANCHE FL22 PreMix - ethylene-glycol based
pH 8
Boil 110Deg C
###########
Repco RED House Brand Coolant
https://www.repco.com.au/oils-fluids...d05/p/A5430005
RCONRE005
OAT Type A red coolant
Contains a small amount of 2-EHA
###########
FORD Motorcraft used to sell:
Motorcraft Specialty Green VC-10-A2 Concentrate = FL22
However, that is no longer available in Oz & has been superseded by FORD Motorcraft YELLOW:
FORD Motorcraft VC-13-G FIRNo 200142 Concentrated WSS_97B57_A1 01, YELLOW Coolant
Ethylene glycol (107-21-1), 2,2-Oxydiethanol (11-46-6), Sodium 2-ethylhexanoate (19766-89-3), Water (7732018-5); sodium neodecanoalte (31548-27-3).
50/50 Boil: +129 Deg C
Concentrate 3.78lt: AUD$70
###########
Toyota Super Long Life PINK Coolant 50/50
Extended Life Japanese Coolant uses Phosphates for fast protection (no silicates) & a single organic acid (Sebacate) & other inhibitors.
No 2-EHA
Water (7732-18-5)
Ethylene Glycol (107-21-1)
Diethylene Glycol (111-46-6)
Sebacic Acid (111-20-6)
Potassium Hydroxide (1310-58-3)
Initial boiling point and boiling range : 108 °C (ASTM D1120)
pH : 7,7 (ASTM D1287)
50/50 Premix 5lt: AUD$42 (or AUD$36 ea when you buy 4 of)
###########
Others are discussing the problem as well:
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/61...mment-10326571
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/th...oolant.365131/
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/th...native.319455/
###########
###########
The options are full flush, remove thermostat & blow out the block with compressed air & then up to 5.4lt required.... (Else if the cooling system is in reasonable condition, you may decide not to take the thermostat out, & undertake multiple Demin Water Flushes, do the residual % calc & then measure your outcome to confirm the % outcomes achieved):
[a] Toyota Super Long Life PINK Coolant 50/50 Premix using 2 of 5lt = AUD$84
or
['b] FORD Motorcraft VC-13-G FIRNo 200142 Concentrate WSS_97B57_A1 01, YELLOW Coolant using 1 of 3.78lt = AUD$70
or
[c] MAZDA FL22 55/45 Premix using 2 of 5lt = AUD$360
Concentrate makes the flush & achieving a 50/50 outcome easier than 50/50 premix.
###########
Interestingly, Independent Workshops that use Penrite Fluids have the same recommendation as it provides "the Penrite Warranty".
penriteoil.com.au/products/green-oem-coolant-concentrate
Penrite Green
GLYSANTIN G48
OEM-Coolant-Concentrate
Type 'A' Ethylene glycol, Anti-Freeze Anti-Boil
HYBRID (HOAT - Hybrid Organic Acid Technology)
Phosphate, Amine and Nitrite free.
50/50 Boil: +109 Deg C
Was concerned that it contains Borate.
SFAIAA It also contains 2-EHA
#######
Noted:
FCSD%20Motorcraft%20Yellow%20Antifreeze-Coolant%20Backward%20Compatability.pdf
2020_08 FCSD Motorcraft YELLOW Antifreeze-Coolant Backward Compatibility with GREEN WSS-M97B55-A
###########
###########
So what are others doing when they are required to completely flush the MAZDA cooling system?
Are you paying AUD$360 for Mazda FL22 Premix to flush all of the previous coolant out?….surely not?
###########
###########
Noted.....I've changed the coolant to Toyota Super Long Life PINK Coolant 50/50 Premix with a Demin Flush. Will Post a Separate Thread.
For my 1.5lt Auto having done the % calcs & measured the outcome %'s I think its 5lt total volume with 400ml in the reservoir & 4.6lt in Block & Heater Core.
Rob
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