2007 350z
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Your whole point, not mineGoFast said:
(About the driver mod reference, I'm really not sure what I meant there. I think I had a brain fart at that moment, because I can't remember what I was trying to get at, nor can I understand what I meant with that. LOL And no, I did not mean what you saying, cause I'd agree with you.)
Quite possible. Then again, I've had numerous run-ins, so there's little to force me to think otherwise.
Like? It's reallly simple. Take a straight highway, clarify what gear, line up door-to-door/bumper-to-bumper, three beeps and you go (with the beeper having the advantage of timing the beeps where they're comfortable). I don't understand what's so hard about that. No need to make it complicated.
I've ran all coupes, no roadsters. Actually, official curb weight of an '06 Z coupe is 3339 (vs. 3150), as per a simple google search. A 239 lb. weight difference is significant, so no, not '100lbs...maybe'.
And the tq difference isn't that much from ours, you mean?? Kidding me? Look up some, you'll notice the meat of an MS3's powerband and pre-07 Z's powerband are quite different. One's strong in the middle, the other's relatively peaky (not to mention, lower in output)
AHA! To me, that's walking away. There goes the difference!
You're not blasting away, leaving him outright, but you're certainly showing a power advantage at 3-4 cars by getting away from him without much competition, hence "walking". Read above reply re: process.
Well, I could easily get into those details if you asked? Look, I don't go out looking for uncompetitive runs. If there were something that put me at an advantage (like he having more passengers than me, for ex.), I'd state it, because I'm not looking to make out-of-whack statements. Whether or not you believe that is up to you.
BTW, in all highway runs I've had with Zs, I've had 1 extra passenger other than myself. Additionally, all Zs I've encountered had two people in them, including driver, as well.
Oh, and the SRT4 vs. SVT Focus run really isn't worth mentioning. Let's stick to competitive comparisons.
I'd imagine so. I'm speaking from my highway/roll-on run state-of-mind, and you don't seem to have that, based on your points (not saying it's a bad/good thing, just saying), so that, sir, is why you cannot understand my claim.
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Micah said:
How about this? Let me know if you're going to be out one night, or if there are any [good] races to watch going on that's worth a trip. I'll definitely go down, and then of course we could have our own little run.
How badly would you say does your rex pull on stock EVOs/STis?
From a 40 roll, up to 80 - I'll put a car or twos distance between them - not sure how many, it's kinda hard to tell. I just tried IM'ing my friend who has a stock 2003 EVO, but he's not responding.
edit - got in touch with him, he says 3-4 cars (which is what I originally was gonna type, but then figured - guess low, be safe)
edit - got in touch with him, he says 3-4 cars (which is what I originally was gonna type, but then figured - guess low, be safe)
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WRONG!!! I disagreed and then you chimed in!!!!! so no, not just my point!(uhm)
Focused said:
(lol) that's it?! your crowning statement for this debate? because we didn't decide who was going to honk?? Focused, I am disappointed in you. I know you can come up with something better than that!! Seriously!!
Here is the good thing though. I think we have at least cleared up that we do NOT "walk all over" these cars. But instead we may pull on them a hair(at times)
As for the weight the thing...maybe the 2006 Z's are coming in a alot heavier than the o3's but according to your method of a "simple google search" the 03's(like my buddies) according to consumer reports:
2003 Nissan 350Z Specs & Safety
Vehicle Dimensions
Specification 2-door hatchback 2-door convertible
Curb Weight, lbs. 3188 3428
2007 MazdaSpeed3
Curb weight: 3180 lb(according to caranddriver)
So now we are talking an 8lb difference. Not 2oo plus lbs lighter than the Z like you were saying. That could be the whole problem!! you were racing a heavier 2006! the consider that I weigh 195, he weighs about 170. there is 25lbs more wight that my car is toting around. Then I had a couple of boxes filled with files for work in the back so there is another(20lbs??). So now who was at the disadvantage?? not the 2003 Z!!! So Maybe i dont have to learn to drive my car as well as you can, maybe all ihave to do is race an 06 and i can yield the same results as you?(hand)
As for the TQ thing...where are you getting this info?! Both cars have a pretty linear tq pull. with pretty similar numbers.
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I wish some of our quarter time guys would jump in here. Ive not taken my Z to the track yet, but from what I can see, trap speeds dont tell the whole story. Some people trap high but have slow 1/4s. Not sure why as Im not experienced on the track yet.
What Im guessing here, is basically an unmodded Z would have a tough customer against a CAI equipped MS3? I know for a fact that some cars respond to boltons better than others, so the gains from a CAI on your cars might make up the difference and even surpass a Z equipped with one. Not sure, but its certainly possible. Coming from someone who has researched Z's, I can tell you again, that the Z is not the best car to slap bolt ons to, and expect to see huge gains. Not unless youre really willing to do some serious internal work. Theres my input on this FWIW.
What Im guessing here, is basically an unmodded Z would have a tough customer against a CAI equipped MS3? I know for a fact that some cars respond to boltons better than others, so the gains from a CAI on your cars might make up the difference and even surpass a Z equipped with one. Not sure, but its certainly possible. Coming from someone who has researched Z's, I can tell you again, that the Z is not the best car to slap bolt ons to, and expect to see huge gains. Not unless youre really willing to do some serious internal work. Theres my input on this FWIW.
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