I just got home from the Dodge dealership here in NJ. Well, my dads brothers wife works for them so he got an employee discount. He ended up getting a R/T Stratus that listed for 25,000. After he got the discount and rebates, it came to 21,000 with tax and tags. I also drove the car and its really sporty and it has a set of balls. The real point here is I asked about the new turbo neon and when it comes out and price. It supposedly comes out either december or january. And the price is around 20,000, give or take a 1,000. I told the guy when it comes out to call me and I wanna drive it. He said there getting like 6 of them. If I can get it for like 17,000, I might consider it, but theres a lot that depends on that