14.5psi stock boost on the srt-4

[yashooa]

Problem is with many of you.......your hung up on 1/4 mile.....

BIG DEAL - typical mentality of so many people, including many rednecks. But hey! You also have NASCAR to look forward to. Yes Dale,,,,,,push the gas,,,,turn left,,,,push the gas,,,,,turn left...... (pukey)

YES YES YES Damn!
Watch TOCA baby thats driving.
European Touring Car damn those guys are nuts.

Forgive the repost but...

I went to buy a 6S with the sport package but bought my Black MSP instead. I could have purchased a 265HP 2004 Maxima but
Mazda has just plain beat all the others IMO in terms of refinement and the quality that the overall product exudes.
Yes this is subjective but Car and Driver said ," BMW 3 series virve for under 17 grand." I'll be willing to bet they never say that about a Neon.
The Car magazines have all said the same thing over and over again which basically is that while the Mazda's haven't had as much HP as the competition they have had a better overall driving experience. And that afterall is what we are doing 8/10ths of the time in our cars driving. Not racing...@ least those who use them as a primary vehicles.

And with that I would like to say Chyslers are like turds with really pretty wrappers. Or in the Neon's case a turd in a turd's wrapper.


(upyours)

 

[low_psi]

too bad dodge had to join the bandwagon after they saw how great the imports were going.

umm...dodge produced the FIRST sport compact car...it started the sport compact(import) scene with the line of K-cars...i believe they were turbo'd too....

 

[tritonheat1]

Man Guy's to the ones u r. You guy's are (STUCK ON STUPID).""Oh man this car is better than this one, oh no wait but my car is faster, well i aint go no gas or neither the right tires on, which also i have 5people in the car and subs in the trunk,""" ah please blow me out the F%$#ing water. S$#T THE %UCK UP, quit your hating and whinning and blahhh blahh blahhh. If i wanted a Fast straight line car for $20,000. I would have bought a Used 94 Integra GS-R or for that fact a civic Hatch and went from there on and would have been faster (than tin buck two). But that's not the point here, we are comparing to great overall car's here the 2003 SRT-4 and 2003 MS-P. If you are going to compare the 2, please compare fairly, not just 1/4mile and Horespower. B/C if that's the case then like i said u guy's are (DUMBER THAN A BOX OF ROCKS) people like you have an IQ below a cabage.

 

[122 Vega]

Why do people think the SRT-4 is so revolutionalry anyways. Big deal. Does anyone remember the 93 Dodge Daytona IROC R/T? 224 whp. How about the Dodge Shadow VNT Turbo? 220 whp. Dodge has been the true king of fwd for a long time.

It all boils down to a matter of personal preference. I personally have owned enough Dodges for awhile (until I get my 96 GTS). I loved my 99 R/T Neon, but it was in the shop quite a bit. Will my MSP escape this? Who knows. But I bought it because I liked it, and I still like it, no matter what jack ass may try to run me at a light. There's more to life than this.

My 76 Vega ran mid 11 sec quarter mile, hit 1.18 on the skid pad and outbraked the Porsche turbo and the Viper GTS. Big deal...one day I got spanked on the track by a new BMW M3! Can you say suprise? Point being, there will always be someone faster than you. STI< EVO< SRT-4...

Britt

 

[Dexter]

i live my life a quarter mile at a time.



can i plewasssssse be moderator???

 

[mspeedpro]

Good to see this thread take a slightly more mellow tone. I agree that the neon is gonna beat me on the strip and to be honest, prob on the track too. but 99% of the time im not on the strip or the track... I'm driving around Saturday night with the windows down with my favorite song BLASTING on the bad ass system. Or I'm cruising from Houston to Austin late at night with my girlfriend in a car that ******* HUGS the road. Maybe I am just going to grab a bite with my friends piled into the car while we shout out the lyrics. Point being, for every day s*** this is the every day best car. I love my mazdaspeed to death and I think most of us here will agree that for whatever personal reason, this is the best car anywhere near this price range. I can't talk numbers and stats, but I can talk about enjoyment...

 

[LADY MSPD]

yea your right domestic rice....what has this world come to???? lol!!!!

 

[1sty]

For anyone to call the neon crap or only a straight line performer is just ignorant. It isn't! Its an all around ballzy sport compact, is it BETTER then the MSP? I don't want to hear 1 person say it is until they drive both!
With out doing so you have no basis for comparision.

Also I am extreamly dissapointed with the typical ricer answers that members have given to compare the MSP to the neon.

"Imports are not always built better then domestics." Just wait till the clunk start driving you nuts and believe me your handling will start to suffer when a bushing fails.

"Imports handle better then donestics", even though the domestic posts close numbers.

Will it hold up as long as the MSP, Dodge better hope so since they gave it a 7 year warrenty.

Just reserve your judgement on the neon until you drive it.

 

[MSP Pro]

Ok, me too! I want to add my 25 cents worth!

Mike gave us a big hype about only looking at the FACTS, but he has several "facts" wrong about the MSP:

FACT: the MSP has ABS (already pointed out)

FACT: the MSP has turned a 14.9 quarter mile, as reported on this forum

FACT: the MSP has turned a 6.9 sec 0-60 time, as reported on this forum

And as for the statement "both cars are almost a Match in Cornering Abilities.(Do not try and argue this Fact it is here in Black and White, the MSP has a SLIGHT advantage....Which the SRT will easily surpass with a Flick of the Throttle)"... Well, yes, I think I will try to add some light to a sorely misinformed person about the MSP:

TOCHIGI FUJI SANGYO SUPER KK LSD; a torque sensing limited slip in the MSP, whereas the SRT has an OPEN DIFF. So, Mike, when you say "....Which the SRT will easily surpass with a Flick of the Throttle)", I think you really haven't paid much attention autocrossing, or haven't you noticed your inside front tire turning into smoke on tight corner exits? If not, maybe you were just very slow on those tight corner exits....

So, PLEASE, when you want to just talk about the FACTS, make sure you have them STRAIGHT before you say things like "(Do not try and argue this Fact it is here in Black and White"

Ok, I be cool now, man.

 

[buster]

Grassroots Motorsports said in their reveiw of the SRT4 that torque steer is very mild and they were suprised at how the open diff wasn't a huge issue.

 

[buster]

For anyone to call the neon crap or only a straight line performer is just ignorant. It isn't! Its an all around ballzy sport compact, is it BETTER then the MSP? I don't want to hear 1 person say it is until they drive both!
With out doing so you have no basis for comparision.

Also I am extreamly dissapointed with the typical ricer answers that members have given to compare the MSP to the neon.

"Imports are not always built better then domestics." Just wait till the clunk start driving you nuts and believe me your handling will start to suffer when a bushing fails.

"Imports handle better then donestics", even though the domestic posts close numbers.

Will it hold up as long as the MSP, Dodge better hope so since they gave it a 7 year warrenty.

Just reserve your judgement on the neon until you drive it.

Agreed, thanks for stating the facts and having an open mind.

 

[boostisgood]

Time for me to shed light on this. I HAVE DRIVEN THE SRT-4, IT IS FAST, IT DOES HANDLE WELL, THE LSD IS MISSED, IT IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM HAS THE SAME CREATURE COMFORTS OF MANY CARS COSTING AS MUCH.

In essence, It is truly a stright line performer only. Talk clunk, The Srt-4 has so many litle squeeks its not funny. It wil not out perform most vehicles in its class in autoX, and its cheaply made.
To clear up how I drove one. I was going to buy one before I got my MSP, And complaind madly to DCX about no info for the car. When I told them I was trading in my 01 Neon ES for the MSP, was right around the time the auto show was in town, and thier rep called me, asked me if i would like a test ride. I did. Not impressed with anything more then the striaghtline.

There it is for you, stright from someone who has driven both cars. The MSP, dollar for dollar, is the better car. Dodge can keep thier NEON, Im happy I got the MSP and NOT the SRT-4.

 

[yashooa]

people like you have an IQ below a cabage.

Oh really how smart is a "cabbage?"

Sorry I couldn't resist that one(nuts)

 

[rodslinger]

Talk clunk, The Srt-4 has so many litle squeeks its not funny, and its cheaply made.

There it is for you, stright from someone who has driven both cars.

I wonder if it was a pre-production model or an abused track mule. I test drove one and it was very tight. Fit and finish looked on par with other cars in this class.

 

[yashooa]

hmmm

I wonder if it was a pre-production model or an abused track mule. I test drove one and it was very tight. Fit and finish looked on par with other cars in this class.

I noticed that most MSP are in the high 14's and seem to perform better than the one tested plus they have ABS. So my point is I think that particular car was a mule and perhaps (as some one else mentioned here earlier) there is a possibilty that some of the SRT-4's are not up to production standards aka a pre-production model.

 

[redrims]

TOCHIGI FUJI SANGYO SUPER KK LSD; a torque sensing limited slip in the MSP, whereas the SRT has an OPEN DIFF. So, Mike, when you say "....Which the SRT will easily surpass with a Flick of the Throttle)", I think you really haven't paid much attention autocrossing, or haven't you noticed your inside front tire turning into smoke on tight corner exits? If not, maybe you were just very slow on those tight corner exits....

So, PLEASE, when you want to just talk about the FACTS, make sure you have them STRAIGHT before you say things like "(Do not try and argue this Fact it is here in Black and White"

Ok, I be cool now, man.

Well that advantage is only TEMPORARY, since MOPAR has an LSD due out soon for the SRT-4. I'm sure a lot of SRT-4 guys will be hopping on this mod too.

 

[Red99Xtreme]

MSP Pro:
"I think you really haven't paid much attention autocrossing, or haven't you noticed your inside front tire turning into smoke on tight corner exits? If not, maybe you were just very slow on those tight corner exits...."
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I was going to enterain you with a Response but I have decided since you have resorted to Personal attacks, You are not worth my Time nor Effort.

Come stop by Virginia Sometime......I'll meet you at any Race event you so Choose.....and will bring my Open Diff CRX, and I will show you exactly what the "Flick of the Throttle" I speak of is......

Cheers,
Mike

'88 CRX "Track Car"
'99 S-10 Xtreme

 

[buster]

Time for me to shed light on this. I HAVE DRIVEN THE SRT-4, IT IS FAST, IT DOES HANDLE WELL, THE LSD IS MISSED, IT IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM HAS THE SAME CREATURE COMFORTS OF MANY CARS COSTING AS MUCH.

In essence, It is truly a stright line performer only. Talk clunk, The Srt-4 has so many litle squeeks its not funny. It wil not out perform most vehicles in its class in autoX, and its cheaply made.
To clear up how I drove one. I was going to buy one before I got my MSP, And complaind madly to DCX about no info for the car. When I told them I was trading in my 01 Neon ES for the MSP, was right around the time the auto show was in town, and thier rep called me, asked me if i would like a test ride. I did. Not impressed with anything more then the striaghtline.

There it is for you, stright from someone who has driven both cars. The MSP, dollar for dollar, is the better car. Dodge can keep thier NEON, Im happy I got the MSP and NOT the SRT-4.

They focused on power and a bit on handling, nit stereo equpiment. Doesn't make it bad, just different mate.
How did you like your 01 ES? My R/T has been a rock solid car since I bought it.
Say what you want about the straight line bit, it is your opinion , but the facts and stats say the cars are very close in the handling dept.
Also, GRM mag tested the car at the track and if it had issues without a LSD, they would have pounced all over it. They didn't.

 

[MSP Pro]

Hi Mike:

I've cooled off now, so if you took my post as a personal attack, please accept my apology, it wasn't meant to attack you, merely to point out flaws in your logic.

I have no problem with an open diff on an 88 CRX. It's a wonderful car. BUT, it's also about 1000 lbs lighter than an SRT-4 and in stock form has about 200 ft lbs LESS torque than the SRT-4.

Which is the basis of my point: high horsepower/torque cars with open diffs have problems staying hooked up on autox courses.

My buddy campaigns Neon ACRs in autox and he's enjoyed the car. It's quick, well behaved, and tossable. I owned a 95 Neon and it was a reasonable car, but had problems with quality.

My bottom line: I love my Mazdaspeed. It's the best handling car I've driven on the two lane mountain roads I like to charge on. It doesn't lack for power, the balance and communication are phenomenal, and it's a cool car for tooling around town in, too.

Zoom Zoom

 

[redmption]

I got whooped the other day by one in my stock s2000
There FAAAASSST

WTF!!! That POS neon beat ur S2000, what is the world coming to? Well at least you know the S2000 wont crap out in 6 months...