1/4 mile times for msp

[03speedprotege]

just wanted to see what everybody else is runnin in the 1/4 mile. I went to the dragstrip in portland last night and my best time was 14.39 at 97.39 mph. I think that I ran faster twice but i let off the gas so I wouldn't break out of my dial in time. My time slip on that run was 14.67 at 86.12 but my 1/8 mile time was 9.272 instead of 9.352. a little bit faster but not much. I had problems with traction off the line so I had to take off kinda slow. my 60' times were always in the 2.3's. If I had some better tires I bet that I could shave some more time off. later

 

[twiztedjeckel]

and you have what mods to get the times that low?

 

[boostisgood]

yeah what mods you got ? Those are low numbers for a MSP to have.

 

[kwiktsi]

Agreed, nice times- what mods ? I will be posting times shortly. I went 14.6@95 at 9-10 psi on pump gas with just a hollowed cat, MBC and K&N... I am hoping to go 14.1-14.2 next time out, we'll see.
Joe

 

[InsidiousMSP]

Agreed, nice times- what mods ? I will be posting times shortly. I went 14.6@95 at 9-10 psi on pump gas with just a hollowed cat, MBC and K&N... I am hoping to go 14.1-14.2 next time out, we'll see.
Joe

Nice. What have you done since the hollowed cat, mbc, and k&n?

 

[AGR]

Is hollowing the Cat hard? I want to do it! I want to do it!

 

[03speedprotege]

all the mods I have done is a apexi avcr boost controler and an apexi turbo timer/af ratio. I was running 11 psi of boost. The guys from corksport were there with their boosted protege and they were running 12.88. I'm not sure what set up they had on there protege but it was pretty fast!!! I can post pictures and time slips if you want to verify my times. I'll have to use my friends scanner so it might take awhile.

 

[twiztedjeckel]

nobody's doubting you. we just want to know what you've done to your car to get those time cause we know the car ain't doin that stock. got any pics of Corksports car by any chance?

 

[boostisgood]

good job, like tiwzted said, we are not doubint you, (unlike others about hthe MSP potential) , we just wanted to know what you were running.

 

[03speedprotege]

no I didn't get any pictures of the corksport protege. I should of but I never seen them with the hood upon it to see the engine. I think that they have some japanese engine in their car that has a factory turbo on it. I asked them if they had any motor mounts to stop wheel hop and they said that they might have a back motor mount off of a 626 that will fit and be stiffer but they were not sure yet.

next mods hopefully with in the next month:

- full three inch mandrel bent exhaust with high flow cat
- cold air intake

 

[kwiktsi]

Congrats!!! What was the temp like that day? 11 psi is right where the MSP starts to detonate- LOUDLY on anything above "cool" temps. I made my 14.6 pass in the FL heat, sucked!!! Now that I am back in NY, I am hoping to get to the track on a nice cool night and see what it will do with exhaust, my FP reduction kit, etc.. Were you running race gas or pump, I would say race to pull that mph at that boost (no crazy timing retard)? I am going to see what it will do on pump, then up the boost to about 14-15psi, put in some 116 and see what it will do .
Joe

 

[BremertonMSP]

no I didn't get any pictures of the corksport protege. I should of but I never seen them with the hood upon it to see the engine. I think that they have some japanese engine in their car that has a factory turbo on it. I asked them if they had any motor mounts to stop wheel hop and they said that they might have a back motor mount off of a 626 that will fit and be stiffer but they were not sure yet.

next mods hopefully with in the next month:

- full three inch mandrel bent exhaust with high flow cat
- cold air intake

How are motor mounts going to prevent wheel hop? Wheel hop is due to suspension and tire combinations. I'd like to hear their explanation on that.

 

[boostisgood]

How are motor mounts going to prevent wheel hop? Wheel hop is due to suspension and tire combinations. I'd like to hear their explanation on that.

(uhm) how so ? I have always cured exesive wheel hop with motor mount inserts or full urethane mounts. I cant see how suspension/tire combos are the major culprit. If that is true, then all FWD drags only cars would have solid suspension, and hard rubber tires.

 

[BremertonMSP]

(uhm) how so ? I have always cured exesive wheel hop with motor mount inserts or full urethane mounts. I cant see how suspension/tire combos are the major culprit. If that is true, then all FWD drags only cars would have solid suspension, and hard rubber tires.

That may be true, but my question still has not been answered. How do stiffer motor mounts cure wheel hop? AFA I can tell, stiffer motor mounts are just going to prevent the motor from twisting in the engine compartment. There is till a separation between the wheels and the engine via the CV joints.
All my mustangs have suffered from wheel hop. That was one of the reasons ford went to the quad shock design on the fox platform, to try and solve the problem. Hell, my F-150 has wheel hop on wet pavement.

I'm not disputing that stiffer motor mounts may have solved the problem for you, just want to know the nuts and bolts of the answer.

 

[03speedprotege]

the air temp was 65 deg. when I started my time trials, and it was on pump gas. when I ran the 14.39 and 14.42 it was some where between 65 and 70. As far as wheel hop = motor mounts the proteges motormounts are really soft and they cause things to move around which creates wheel hop. It doesn't create it all just some. The tire choice has alot to do with it also.

 

[boostisgood]

That may be true, but my question still has not been answered. How do stiffer motor mounts cure wheel hop? AFA I can tell, stiffer motor mounts are just going to prevent the motor from twisting in the engine compartment. There is till a separation between the wheels and the engine via the CV joints.
All my mustangs have suffered from wheel hop. That was one of the reasons ford went to the quad shock design on the fox platform, to try and solve the problem. Hell, my F-150 has wheel hop on wet pavement.

I'm not disputing that stiffer motor mounts may have solved the problem for you, just want to know the nuts and bolts of the answer.

Your comparing front wheel to rear wheel cars, motor mounts will nto cure wheel hop in a rear drive car. Due to the fact, you have a long ass driveshaft.

I a front drive car, the motor twising causes the wheel hop moreso then the suspension, that way, the motor mounts will stiffen the engine in place, thus eliminationg alot of wheel hop.

 

[kwiktsi]

the air temp was 65 deg. when I started my time trials, and it was on pump gas. when I ran the 14.39 and 14.42 it was some where between 65 and 70. As far as wheel hop = motor mounts the proteges motormounts are really soft and they cause things to move around which creates wheel hop. It doesn't create it all just some. The tire choice has alot to do with it also.

Ahhh.. The weather played a nice role in it. It was upper 80's- when I made my passes. Was that on pump or race fuel though?
Joe

PS- You are right about the soft motor mounts though, the motor rocks around like crazy in there under a launch..

 

[twiztedjeckel]

so did you lower the tire preasure in the fronts by any chance?