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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    The recap and conclusion.... Idles smooth on startup, starts getting erratic "bumps" after a few minutes. A/C and power steering affect it, but unpredictably. When driving, it stumbles off idle but runs smooth above ~1500rpm. No check engine lights (except a rare "random engine misfire" when it...
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    You've been holding out on me! Just kidding. Just measured IAC resistance. 9.8, supposed to be 7.2 - 9.2, so just outside. Regarding my IAC functional tests, if it were giving no feedback to the ECU, the ECU might not tell it to operate. My tests wouldn't catch this "zero operation"...
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    Would you rule it out after those functional tests? No matter, I'm going to do the formal tests. It's brand new. With both the old and new I wiggled the connector like crazy (both old and new one) while it was running and it had no effect. It runs like total crap when unplugged, so seems to...
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    I've disconnected and reconnected everything at least once, done lots of wiggling with it running, no luck. Needles & haystacks, ugh.
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    I don't have the car for a couple days, but I'll start with the IAC tests. Previously, I disconnected the IAC and held it at idle with the gas pedal, still got the bumps, so doesn't seem it's giving bad info. I also put a blocking plate below the IAC, and with it hooked up still got the bumps...
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    My Actron reader displays live data. Guess I should look there, duh!
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    Finally had some more time to work on it. 2 mechanics suggested fuel filter or pump. Replaced screen & filter (fuel pump "body"), no change. New fuel pump, no change, grrr. [anybody wanna buy a fuel pump assy?] 008's comment on MAF jarred my memory of an erratic MAF on a Mitsu pickup I had...
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    I've never heard of Seafoam, but from what I'm reading it sounds like good stuff. Similar to Marvel Mystery Oil. I've seen MMV do a great job quieting lifters, but that's all I've ever seen it used for. I'll definitely give the Seafoam a shot.
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    The "instant" drops are when it sputters. When I turn on the a/c it goes down to 16 and stays there. Put it in gear and it goes down to 14 and stays there. Should it recover back to 21 while those are on? If it should, each of those systems must have a vacuum leak.
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    Thanks for that info. Plenty of places to go wrong it seems. So, the car has ~80 miles since the ECU reset, nothing has changed except I have a shiny new vacuum gauge. :-) Warm idle, no a/c, in Park, 21 inHg. Put it in gear or turn on a/c, 16. Add the other one (a/c or put in gear), 14. Is...
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    Yeah, it sure seems like the IAC is working. It kicks the idle up a bit when you turn the a/c on, put it in gear, or turn the wheel (idle always settles back down from the load in every case).
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    No kidding? 100 miles?
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    With the IAC unplugged it just dies on idle. If I hold it at idle with the gas pedal I still get the drops. I'm putting a blocking plate on it tomorrow in case it's an internal leak or something. Even if that doesn't change the behavior I'm about at the point of just replacing the IAC, and...
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    reset ECU, no tears in intake tube, can't find any split vacuum lines. I sprayed carb cleaner all over the base of the intake and every vac line I could find, didn't affect idle, though I'll probably get lung cancer from the fumes. I made a plate to block off the egr, no change, making another...
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    Pulled coolant lines off IAC/TB and plugged. Smooth idle cold, goes to crap before the temperature gauge starts to move. Grrrr.
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    Good info. I previously removed and cleaned IAC/EGR/Throttle body, they weren't that dirty for 150k. I checked EGR movement but not IAC movement, oops. Now knowing what that IAC does I ran a few more tests: Engine Cold (doesn't have the problem): Turn on a/c idle does go up a bit then...
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    Rough Idle with AC on

    Did you get this resolved? I've got an idle problem that's killing me: http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123855161-Yet-ANOTHER-rough-idle-2002-P5
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    Yet ANOTHER rough idle - 2002 P5

    I've read about 1 bazillion posts on rough idle but haven't been able to resolve mine. It started about a month ago and has gotten progressively worse. Symptoms: Idles smooth at 700-1000rpm while in park, a/c off. Turn on the a/c, idle drops slightly (that's normal) then gets erratic. It...
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    02 Protege with Rough/Dying Idle and P0302 + P0171 Codes

    Did you get this resolved? I'm in the same boat with a 2002 Protege. Have done everything you mentioned and no luck. Mine is a little different in that it idles smooth with a/c off, then sputters with a/c on. Also smooth in Park, same sputter in gear. I've also let it idle with the pcv valve...
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    Yet another rough idle - 2002 P5

    I've read about 1 bazillion posts on rough idle but haven't been able to resolve mine. It started about a month ago and has gotten progressively worse. Symptoms: Idles smooth at ~600rpm in park, a/c off. Turn on the a/c, idle drops slightly (that's normal) then gets erratic. It never goes...
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