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A 5 spd 99 Maxima is a mid to low 15 second car. Hows that gonna own a MSP? And your car is a auto-tragic so how will that OWN my car? We're talking stock for stock here buddy, an MSP with $800 invested is as fast as a SRT-4 essentially. I alter my statement. A MSP will OWN a 99 Maxima in any...

(pow) BS..a 99 Maxima is a mid 15 sec car. MSP owns Maxima in every measureable performance category.

Objectively. from a performance standpoint the MSP is better than a Ralliart. The statistics and information to prove this are readily available. From a personal standpoint, I just dont trust Mitsubishi. A girl I dated for a while had a 3G Eclipse(its a girls car after all)...and it had many...

Damn what a value for the money. Now if it wasnt a Neon, wasnt so ugly AND had a little "Made in Japan" sticker on the drivers door (my preference) I would have been in one now.

Saturns and anything from GM is a POS.

ebc. btw...why is everyone so worried about whether the dealer knows you have a boost controller?? are other kinds of car dealers as concerned about mods or is it just mazda/mazdaspeed?

Oh ok well then I guess you're lucky to have driven both. :) BUT..why is it that SCC(of of whom editors also owns a ITR) said the MSP was the best FWD thet have ever driven? Also on this board some members have commented that some people feel the MSP is a better handler. And statistically isnt...

To those that have driven both cars.ITR vs MSP.which has better handling? And which is a better track car...stock.

If you're financing it spend the extra $100 a month and trade it in for a better car like a STi or more preferably a EVO. Its worth it. Thats what I should have done. If I get some more money together I'm gonna sell the MSP...and get an EVO. As good as the MSP is those cars are just plain sick.

Im sure that its easier to get a MSP engine becuz all you have to do is find a 2.0 L 99-2003 engine and there are tons more Proteges around (and totaled) then there are ITR's. As far as tuning...turbo>Highly taxed, high revving Honda NA 4 cylinder. Its physics man...it may burst the Hondabois...

Whats the point? I dont think a Type R is a step up performance wise from a MSP really. The MSP is as good a track car as a ITR and has a turbo that when tuned properly can give you more power gains for less coin than a ITR. Also the MSP is newer and has the added practicality of 4 doors.

Find a nice curvy road..eat it up and then spit it out!! Congrats. (headbang)

I don't know. I didn't like the regular WRX when I test drove it. The steering felt vague and TO ME it handled very Accord/Camryish as compared to where the MSP is more razorsharp akin to a ITR/EVO. The power was OK but not much faster if at all than my MSP. Not my cup of tea..dunno. As far the...

Recently I've felt my MSP loose some of its great steering accuracy, a characteristic other MSP owners would know. It just doesnt seem as precise on taking turns as it used to...and Im not sure but I can swear the car pulls a little to the side when I'm dring straight. Could something be wrong...

what about the handling?? there msp>turbo mp5

Well a car that slaloms faster than a Ferrari Modena and pulls about .90g on the skidpad with stock rubber AND was proclaimed as better than a ITR in handling. What do you think? And all for $16-18K these days...what else do you want? Who cares about resale??...all these new performance 4 door...

wtf??? a dream to beat a mid 14 second boat that has the handles of a motorhome...with bad build quality like the Mustang GT??? :) All I can say is have bigger dreams...;) My dreams are more along the lines of picking up a ferrari from the maranello factory and driving through the...

DSM as a drag/fast car. The money you'd lose trading for a MSP will be more than the cost of a used 1G DSM, getting it into the mid 12's and paying for MANY good dinners celebrating smoking LS1's/EVO's/STi's. :) My next car will be 1 of those. keep the MP3 as a daily driver. BTW--which...

Could a MSP replicate those numbers of the MP3 and i wonder how much better a MSP would do in the transition segments with the added power...?

A few things: 1. AWD loses much more power to the WHEELS...WHERE IT MATTERS than s FWD or RWD. -->as a consequence I still say a stock unflashed MSP can easily stay with a WRX at high speed and a flashed MSP will pull on a WRX gradually....before attempting to flame remember the weight...