If this were the case, then wouldn't you expect the AWD version to perform better on a skidpad test, which is an objective measure of roadholding/handling?Yes, it WILL go around it quicker and faster. Why?
Because it did not perform any better.
If this were the case, then wouldn't you expect the AWD version to perform better on a skidpad test, which is an objective measure of roadholding/handling?Yes, it WILL go around it quicker and faster. Why?
No, because there is no time limit. They can gingerly accelerate right up to the limit of lateral adhesion. Driving on the track or a cloverleaf, one presumes that time is a factor.If this were the case, then wouldn't you expect the AWD version to perform better on a skidpad test, which is an objective measure of roadholding/handling?
Because it did not perform any better.
How did you come to the conclusion that the AWD CX-5 is a "superior drivetrain setup" for the conditions asked about in the OP?
Can you offer any evidence, or is this just your opinion?
The OP asked what benefits AWD provides during spirited driving. I simply used FWD test data as a benchmark. Skidpad results indicate that AWD does not provide any benefit.
If this were the case, then wouldn't you expect the AWD version to perform better on a skidpad test, which is an objective measure of roadholding/handling?
Because it did not perform any better.
But the OP is explicitly NOT asking about driving in "all types of weather".Again, where is the OP asking for a lecture on why you think a FWD CX5 is better? You are not "helping" the OP at all. Members have been linking videos about how the I-active AWD works in all conditions.
Its very simple why the AWD is the superior driveline. It is better in all types of driving then a FWD only setup. Since I drive in all types of weather AWD offers much more stability. Its not even a question and thus its the superior drivetrain.
He is variably correct. It is so close that it varies by test. AWD doesn't help skidpad tests because they can take any amount of time they choose to reach terminal v, which results in little to no issue for a FWD vehicle.Link?
But the OP is explicitly NOT asking about driving in "all types of weather".
So those observations are irrelevant.
People have been posting promotional Mazda marketing videos about how AWD "works". But they don't show any measurable benefit or improvement in performance with. The only way to measure that is to compare AWD to a non-AWD model.
And the only statistics posted thus far do not indicate any benefit of AWD in dry driving conditions.
I had a FWD 2016 Mazda 6 on OEM tires. It was a battle taking it out in any snow conditions. 3-4 inches of snow was enough to cause white knuckle driving.Never having to give a thought to available traction is very powerful in itself
He is variably correct. It is so close that it varies by test. AWD doesn't help skidpad tests because they can take any amount of time they choose to reach terminal v, which results in little to no issue for a FWD vehicle.
Skidpad results are exactly the same between AWD and FWD... 0.82.Link?
All of them I've seen place the vehicles within 0.02g or so when tested head to head.I fully understand, skidpad tests are more about the tire limits. In just interested in seeing the information he is presenting and from which publication.
Skidpad results are exactly the same between AWD and FWD... 0.82.
In addition, here are some more excerpts from the article...
- Our all-wheel-drive CX-5 Grand Touring test car carried an extra 141 pounds of mass compared with the front-wheel-drive CX-5 Grand Touring we recently tested.
- Despite increased launch traction, the heftier AWD model’s straight-line performance fell behind its lighter FWD kin.
- This CX-5 taking 8.1 seconds to go from zero to 60 mph, 0.3 second longer than the front-drive model.
- A bigger disappointment was the all-wheel-drive CX-5’s 70-mph-to-zero stopping distance of 182 feet—five feet longer than its front-wheel-drive counterpart
2017 Mazda CX-5 AWD Test: High Five
On a tightrope between passion and practicality.www.caranddriver.com
Again, the OP clearly specified that this thread is exclusively about DRY driving conditions.I had a FWD 2016 Mazda 6 on OEM tires. It was a battle taking it out in any snow conditions. 3-4 inches of snow was enough to cause white knuckle driving.
Since then between my wife and I we've had 3 AWD vehicles...her 2018 CX5, a former 2016 Jeep Renegade AWD and my 2019 CX5 GT awd. In any snow conditions there has been no issues.....and these are all on factory tires no snow tires needed.
Describe to us what happens when you drive on snow? DO things change? Or are they just...exaggerated? Contemplate on this for a bit as to how it might apply to cornering dynamics.Again, the OP clearly specified that this thread is exclusively about DRY driving conditions.
If you want to discuss the merits of AWD in snowy conditions, you should start a new thread.
Skidpad results are exactly the same between AWD and FWD... 0.82.
In addition, here are some more excerpts from the article...
- Our all-wheel-drive CX-5 Grand Touring test car carried an extra 141 pounds of mass compared with the front-wheel-drive CX-5 Grand Touring we recently tested.
- Despite increased launch traction, the heftier AWD model’s straight-line performance fell behind its lighter FWD kin.
- This CX-5 taking 8.1 seconds to go from zero to 60 mph, 0.3 second longer than the front-drive model.
- A bigger disappointment was the all-wheel-drive CX-5’s 70-mph-to-zero stopping distance of 182 feet—five feet longer than its front-wheel-drive counterpart
2017 Mazda CX-5 AWD Test: High Five
On a tightrope between passion and practicality.www.caranddriver.com
But as I posted earlier, the AWD version was also slower in the 5-60 MPH rolling start test, as well as the 30-50 MPH and 50-70 MPH tests.Yep it's definitely heavier and increase mass will make it take longer to accelerate and stop. No argument there. However drag racing and panic braking are not my driving Style.
Again, the OP clearly specified that this thread is exclusively about DRY driving conditions.
If you want to discuss the merits of AWD in snowy conditions, you should start a new thread.