turbo on mp3

[Protegempthree]

Hi guys i want to put turbo on my car but i dont have the money to rebuild the engine at the time can i run a turbo at low boost that wont wear or tear the engine until i get the time and money to rebuild it. May sound ignorant but im new to this so i dont know much.

 

[mrwicked]

Couple of things .... 1st I hope that's not your full home address under your SN
2nd there's a guy selling a stock turbo on here full setup .... And running it at 5-6 psi you're fine

 

[Protegempthree]

Is it bad news to have the address?

 

[Protegempthree]

Where do i look for the turbo kit i dont know how to use this site

 

[Protegempthree]

Ok nevermind found the turbo for sale. Thanks for your help

 

[firelizard]

Basically, bad idea. Not to burst your bubble, but the FS-DE has weak rods and even the Mazdaspeed Protege can damage them at stock boost. An old stock FS with a homebrew turbo kit and fuel management is not likely to bear it well. Not to say it won't work, but it will definitely put your engine under a considerable amount of stress compared to just leaving it alone.

Good luck.

 

[Protegempthree]

Ok thanks much for your help. I had a feeling that was gonna happen. No worries im gonna save up and get more knowledge on the topic and hopefully i will be running good amount of boost on my car.

 

[tweety2300]

Actually they do fine as long as the tune is good. Plenty of fsde's have went more than 40k miles without blowing up on 10 psi. Do the turbo with an fmic get an msp ecu and an ssafc and a wide band. If you look there's already plenty of base tunes on here to get you started. Mp3 was meant to be turbo which is why the msp came out 2 years later with almost the same stuff plus turbo

 

[firelizard]

Interesting that you should say that. When I first got my 2L I intended to do just that, but forum members pretty much unanimously advised me against doing it on stock internals.

Either way, I'm still sticking to a naturally aspirated route, for reliability's sake.

 

[tweety2300]

Look at the sigs of people with msps most of them run 8-10 psi on stock internals. You could prob get away with 12 psi with a good enough tune and proper bolt ons and care

 

[DarkAngel]

The risk would be too great though. These rods are as thin as a tooth pick. One good spike or misshap and your motor will be toast. I would leave it stock if I had a stock MSP setup running.

Also where did you read the MP3 was meant to be turbo? Just curious.

 

[tweety2300]

Well the mazdaspeeds are the exact same thing with a turbo bolted to it... Pretty much any protege needs a turbo unless you want reliability and a slow car. I chose reliability because I can't afford for s*** to break

 

[njaremka]

so much facepalm in this thread...

MP3 is not a good candidate for turbo. it's ECU has an advanced timing curve that lends itself to major detonation and knock at anything over 5psi, which will pretty much kill a stock protege motor in short time. if you want to run low boost on an MP3, get a stock 5-speed ES or Protege5 ECU first - or better yet, get an MSP ECU. if you want to run anything over 8 psi, plan on rebuilding the motor at some point.

 

[talltim]

so much facepalm in this thread...

MP3 is not a good candidate for turbo. it's ECU has an advanced timing curve that lends itself to major detonation and knock at anything over 5psi, which will pretty much kill a stock protege motor in short time. if you want to run low boost on an MP3, get a stock 5-speed ES or Protege5 ECU first - or better yet, get an MSP ECU. if you want to run anything over 8 psi, plan on rebuilding the motor at some point.

Well that is good advice but even the stock 2.0 has a knock sensor. So it will pull timing when it first detects a knock.

 

[njaremka]

Well that is good advice but even the stock 2.0 has a knock sensor. So it will pull timing when it first detects a knock.

tell that to all the MSP guys that have holes in their block. MSP has a knock sensor, too.

i'd rather have a tune to prevent knock, than rely on a knock sensor to pull timing. it only takes one good pre-detonation event on boost to blow a rod.

 

[tweety2300]

so much facepalm in this thread...

MP3 is not a good candidate for turbo. it's ECU has an advanced timing curve that lends itself to major detonation and knock at anything over 5psi, which will pretty much kill a stock protege motor in short time. if you want to run low boost on an MP3, get a stock 5-speed ES or Protege5 ECU first - or better yet, get an MSP ECU. if you want to run anything over 8 psi, plan on rebuilding the motor at some point.

Or try reading where I said to get an msp ecu and an ssafc...

 

[DarkAngel]

so much facepalm in this thread...

MP3 is not a good candidate for turbo. it's ECU has an advanced timing curve that lends itself to major detonation and knock at anything over 5psi, which will pretty much kill a stock protege motor in short time. if you want to run low boost on an MP3, get a stock 5-speed ES or Protege5 ECU first - or better yet, get an MSP ECU. if you want to run anything over 8 psi, plan on rebuilding the motor at some point.

Don't just generalize the facepalm here.....Not trying to single anyone out but corrections are needed in here.

Anyways you are right to also include the difference in intake manifold as well but as you stated the ECU is not a good ECU for boost as to why many have swapped them out.

talltim, in my opinion save up money to get forged parts so you don't go through what all MSP owners have gone through at some point.

 

[firelizard]

Pretty much any protege needs a turbo unless you want reliability and a slow car.

Why would s*** break if it's as easy and reliable as you claim?

 

[talltim]

Well I am used to Mustangs. The Cobra comes with a knock sensor and from what I have heard it works well.

 

[tweety2300]

Why would s*** break if it's as easy and reliable as you claim?

It would be easy and reliable on a well takin care of car. Mine was poorly takin care of. Idk why you guys are bashing him on turbo ing his car. If he wants to do it he will and it will do fine as long as he does everything properly. If you want to say he will blow it up no matter how he runs it or anything then you are ignorant and should quit posting