limited slip diff possible?
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VenomDesign
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- Mazda 5 GT Pearl White '07
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Lay off the accelerator. Be easy man.
Different (i.e better wet traction ratings) tires will take care of this problem as well.
yeah, better tires would be beneficial.
i've been driving subarus for a decade so its an adjustment to go 2WD.
I think part of the adjustment is now driving a minvan as well...
No kidding!
remarquian
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- 2007 Mazda5 Sport AT
Hear Hear.
I've been noticing the switch from my winters to the Toyos big time. I'm slipping a lot, when when stepping on it, starting from a full stop.
I thought the Mazda OE tires would be better than Subaru OE. Guess its all the same. I'll probably switch to better all seasons before the winter. I'll head off winter tire discussion by saying that I love them, but have no space to store an extra set of tires. Need a garage!
No, it's not just tires. We have dedicated snows and they still spin like a banshee when trying to start moving from a stop on packed snow. No amount of clutch slippage and gentleness stops it. For these conditions, I think an LSD might be a very good option.
Unfortunately, I have no idea whether the MSP3 LSD would fit or not.
Unfortunately, I have no idea whether the MSP3 LSD would fit or not.
rodslinger
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Think of some reasons why it is a BAD idea first before blowing it off. You have to look at the driving dynamics of the 5 and understand it could benefit from one MORE than a 3 or Protege would.
The 5 is heavier. It is also more TOP heavy. These things light up the inside tire real easy even on dry pavement when pulling off a turn. The higher center of gravity and extra weight really unloads that inside tire making an LSD a sometimes necessary.
If I have the wife and kids with stuff driving in the rain, it can be a pain in the ass pulling out into traffic. If just breaks a tire loose gives it hell.
I'd be all over an LSD for my 5. Should have had one to begin with. It was never a problem on my 3.
Limited slip differentials are great when one wheel is on good pavement and the other has no traction, but as soon as the second drive wheel breaks free, steering control is lost -- meaning you go in whatever direction you are currently traveling. This has its disadvantages when curves and wheel spin are mixed.
It's won't help much. Tires will definitely help more. And the extra weight actually HELPS you get traction, not the other way around... And the lsd does more on the protege and the 3 because they have a higher hp/weight ratios meaning its harder to push the power down to the ground. There's a reason the only protege with an lsd is the MSP, cause its boosted and has much more torque & hp.
Also if you're "lighting" up the tires on the 5, there's a problem with your driving. It's a minivan, not a race car. Why are you taking turns at high speeds and pushing through them in a minvan? Lsd's were made for performance applications. Unless you're trying to turn your minivan into a performance car, they are pretty much unnecessary. Also, Lsd's will not give you much help in the rain. If both tires lack the coefficient of friction to gain grip then the lsd does virtually nothing, and you will simply have no traction with or without the lsd... Sorry to say but you argument is pretty much empty.
Is that enough "bad" reasons for you? LOL Like I said in my first post I wasn't trying to ruffle anyone's feathers and I apologize if I did so. But it looks like you're the only one who got their panties in a bunch about it.
rodslinger
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There are no cons to including the LSD. The only benefit I can think of purposely excluding it is to save Mazda a few bucks to be able to sell me a van for $50 cheaper. Better tires might help traction (and I have upgraded), but one slipping tire isn't getting you anywhere. More weight does help traction, sometimes.... But if that weight is being transfered to a non-drive wheel and unloading the drive wheel then it isn't helping much anymore. The scenario I outlined about pulling out in traffic is not a flaw in driving.
