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MS3077

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Mazda, Mazdaspeed 3 GT
I have been accused by a select few (2-4 members I think) of being a Fanboi
I’ve pointed out on a few occasions that the MS3 is a better performance vehicle than probably all other cars in its segment “25k and under sport compact” category. For example, there was thread about the GTI w/ DSG vs. MS3. The OP said he/ she couldn’t take it from 0-60. In response I said something to the affect that there is no good reason that a GTI w/DSG should be running faster than a MS3 unless the driver of the MS3 spun too much thru 1st and 2nd gear. I never said the GTI was a bad car or that it wasn’t as good / better or anything to that affect yet I get flamed away for that post. My other post have been received in much the same way by the same (2-4 members) for basically the same kind of post but with different cars involved (Accord, Camry, New EVO, Cobalt SS, WRX, etc.) On pretty much all accounts I have been flamed away for making a simple comparison between above mentioned cars vs. MS3. Keeping in mind I never talked bad about the above mentioned cars only compared them from a performance standpoint. Well, I might have said that I didn’t like the Cobalt’s interior, exterior but that’s about it.

For the members that I’m talking about please do feel free to quote any other post that I’ve have made that in your opinion qualifies me as a MS3 fanboi and how I think all other cars are s*** basically in comparison. Frankly, I’m getting quite fed up at this point with these members as I can’t seem to make one post without a personal attack now.

What do you all think?
 
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MS3s are nice...but not God in Car form nice...They are still just a Mazda Econo-box and have numerous problems at being fast as they are..

...Hell, I like my car, and I am proud to own it, and for what I've done to it....and it's just a Slowtege5...

It's the interwebs....you gotta get some thicker skins or you'll be crying all damn day long...
 
You just have to give and take here and there! It's hard to just be in love with your car like I am mine and not make it sound cocky!
 
Seriously this is the web so don't get your panties in a bundle over some comments from some internet tough guys.

We are all entitled to our opinion..no matter how wrong it maybe.

And for the record MS6>MS3 :p
 
wow, you started this thread? Seriously?

I guess the internet is serious business lol
 
an older korean lady once told me;

" a jar of pennies will make more noise than a jar full of dollar bills...."

a MS3 is bad effen arse...no doubt about it. it shouldnt require such cheerleading.
 
I think a lot of us get carried away with performance numbers, and mods too to some extent.

Here's how I see it. The mazdaspeed 3 is a wonderful, fun little economy car that lets you get a taste of performance, on a lower budget level. Let's be honest here, car prices have gotten to some pretty insane levels the past few years now. So 22-25k depending on options etc... the speed 3 offers good value and a taste of fun when you still have to be practical about it. It is NOT a racecar, just as a honda civic with any number of mods including FI or nos etc... is not, and never will be a "race car" contrary to popular opinion in some circles.

True enough there are some running around the tracks, but there is little left of the stock configuration as it came from the factory. If some people put as much money and time into basic and preventative maintenance as they do putting stickers and wings onto their cars they would be a lot farther ahead.

My reasons for being on the forum are many, most of which are seeing other owners experiences with their cars, and seeing whats being done, or just socializing with others who share my interest. Granted, my opinions differ with many on here as I can see. That doesn't mean I dislike them, or wish to "start trouble" or be an "internet tough guy"

There are many out there who mod their imports, and have a lot of fun doing it etc.. but there are also a lot of cars that are damaged beyond words, and/or screwed up badly in ill informed "mod" attempts.

Whenever I see eyebrows, huge wings, vinyl in huge quantities etc... it makes me sad to see a car disgraced in that manner. Any mod that is just for "show", but actually hampers the safety features and/or places other cars on the road in jeopardy for the sake of "looks" is certainly something I will express my opinion on. Face it, eyebrows, improper HID conversions, blacking out headlights, turn signals etc.. is just plain stupid and puts others at risk. So you better have a thick skin when I tell you flatly that those mods are retarded, because they are. Perhaps the world will be a better place if less people run around doing that crap. If you want to run quarters down at the track with no exhaust at all, more power to you. But drive by my home at 3 in the morning with a giant fart cannon and don't be suprised when I call you an asshole. There are more people on the road than just you. Take your turn.

Sorry for the blathering post, but that's how I see it. Call me an asshat if you will, doesn't matter to me. Perhaps I should move along to different digs.
 
eh im leaving this thread here for now against my better judgement. I;ll check back on the imminent flame-fest in a couple of hours
 
Super Unique I agree but I wasn't referring to you are you opinions about "mods" I actually agree with you there.
 
lol, my next car is a ms3 or DSG..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZIzgYrUnANc

and to the OP, i like your car..

and what this guy said^^^^^

GTI 1/4 : 14.5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgboh3AUfyE&feature=related
ms3 1/4: 14.5 http://**********************/index.php?PHPSESSID=bc501b39083fa9e99e6a687e14f59203&topic=73346.msg1657830#msg1657830
dont know which to get..=[


You are aware that a 14.5 1/4 is pretty much weak sauce for a MS3 right and that a 14.5 for a "stock" GTI might actually be some kind of record as I've never heard of one going that fast/ slow whatever you want to consider it.
 
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So the irony here being that a guy creates a thread about people flaming him... So a few more people come in and flame him for 1) being too serious about the internets!! which just so happens to be 90% of peoples source of data (cars or not) and 2) for creating a thread about getting flamed.

Unfortunately, and not to get off topic I have read a few of MS3077's posts and he is right in that he didn't specifically say that one car sucked. He has his own viewpoints and its good see people who are so enthusiastic about their car! we could really use more spirit than practicallity, after all racing is about that "rush" you get, right?




lol, my next car is a ms3 or DSG..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZIzgYrUnANc

and to the OP, i like your car..

and what this guy said^^^^^

GTI 1/4 : 14.5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgboh3AUfyE&feature=related
ms3 1/4: 14.5 http://**********************/index.php?PHPSESSID=bc501b39083fa9e99e6a687e14f59203&topic=73346.msg1657830#msg1657830
dont know which to get..=[


who cares? more than likely you are going to mod the car, if not then its going to be based on driver. I haven't seen your videos, but I guarantee you that the MS3 is consistently faster than the GTI (magazines using stock cars). Plus the GTI is a volkswagen, which is struggling with reliability. Mazda just recently won 1st in a Reliability rest 2007. Doubt you will see a stock GTI beat a MS3 around a track.

overall, GTI=more luxury MS3=more enthusiast.
 
vord. at the track the driver plays the major role. i see miatas blow vettes into the weeds regularly.

either way, i dig MS's enthusiasm.
 
Volkswagen service will do you in for a buck or two. At least you know that going in. With Mazda there is all this feel good chatter about warranty and how good they will take care of you. Then a cold air intake later they're wiping their nether regions with your warranty.......
 
MS3007, I'm new here so I'd like to think I'm somewhat objective, and here's and example (outside of the GTI/Cobalt thread) of why I think you're getting flamed:

Starting at post #48, and culminating at post #54:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3875378#post3875119

Now I don't know your post history, but you seem to be intentionally and unnecessarily confrontational towards people that suggest something other than an MS3. Is that "fanboiism"? Perhaps, perhaps not... but regardless, it pokes people in the eye and dares them to argue with you, if even just for the sake of argument. You may not intend to come off that way, but actual intent and how other perceive your intent are two different things.

This is not intended as a personal attack... just passing along my first impression of you as it directly relates to your request for feedback on the situation.
 
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I am not aware of the fanboi meaning is. please. Super U. nice expression of opinion. democracy should encourage dialog, sometimes perceived as argument, but never spiteful or without respect for others. It was designed for folks who had morals and thoughtful consideration of others. after all that crap... My MazdaSpeed 3 is my favorite car ever. No facts can back this up. But the car was designed with alot of performance, in all aspects, not far away from stock. We do not have the support that a big production # after market folks can tool up for a reasonable profit. The car is almost a station wagon. And what a wagon though! a couple pieces added and it can hit some very nice numbers in the quarter. with a bit of attention the handling and braking are in the high performance cars league. I am usually quiet but, My car will kick your cars ass! I don't care who you are. just imo
 
What do you all think?

I think it's odd that you want confirmation from a bunch of strangers (for the most part) that you aren't, in fact, a fanboi. AND at the same time are somehow concerned that a few strangers (for the most part) think you may be one.

Set your own tone man... why worry about it? If you let some dolt on the internet effect your day so much that you have to make a whole thread about it.... well then, me thinks you have more to worry about.

The way I see it.... I don't personally know the guy (or woman! hell this IS the internet, lol) but I don't think people like Swampass (judging by his posts) worry about what people think about him. He's funny as hell and very informative at times... and he keeps on poking fun at himself all the while.

Don't take yourself so seriously.

/thinking
 
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