Test Drove New Srt4

[boostdog]

Until we get a real ECU solution, we are stuck at where we are now. Hopefully, Cobb will open the doors and from that point on, we will be making the same power as the CSRT4 guys. IT may be an ugly looking vehicle, but it will be fast and the tuners out there are already familiar with the ECU, not to mention 5X the aftermarket support.

People may not like my Lightning but i can mop up 70% of what shows up at the track with it and drive it home when im done. The point im making is, this is a fun car to drive and mod, but its definately not going to survive the track 3 times a week like my truck. Ill be happy with 375whp in my MS3 if they day comes. With the fines and punishment for street racing these days, its stupid not to goto the track to get it out of your blood. Just the MS3 cant hold up to that punishment for long periods of time.

how do you know? has it been proven yet? i have yet to see much on the ms3 breaking with aftermarket parts making alot of hp to prove this claim.

 

[Haltech]

how do you know? has it been proven yet? i have yet to see much on the ms3 breaking with aftermarket parts making alot of hp to prove this claim.

Oh come on.. no MS3 pushing 300+ horsepower with high RPM launches is going to survive hard drag strip use week after week. Ive got over 3700 HARD passes in my truck over the course of 6 years and even i sufferent from rear end problems! The MS3 doesnt have the strongest axles and tranny (boom02)

 

[Betelgeuse]

The MS3 doesnt have the strongest axles and tranny (boom02)

And you know that how?

 

[Eddie Wetzel]

Just wait for the magazines to do a shoot out with these cars...
(lol2)

Car and Driver already did a comparo. $25K shootout actually. It included the new Volvo C30, The CSRT4, MS3, and the new WRX..

Long story short.

Caliber was fastest in some things, MS3 was fastest in others.

The Caliber ended up LAST, BUT...BIG BUT... everything it REALLY lost points on was subjective. That means looks! They said it handled great on the highway for lane change and it handled great in the twisties. They just hate how it looks and thought the interior was cheap.

The MS3 ended up FIRST! Mostly because they liked the way it looked better. They liked the interior also saying it was well appointed and sophisticated. They also mentioned how it handled.


But, if you look at the break down of points awarded you will see the biggest disparity was in the LOOKS and INTERIOR points. NOT ANY of the performance points.

 

[laloosh]

it trapped the highest and had the highest lane change mph

 

[Betelgeuse]

C&D test sheet scores:

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/14234/2007-mazdaspeed-3.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/14236/2008-dodge-caliber-srt4.html

srt-4

skidpad - .84g
70-0 - 176 ft
5-60 - 6.6 sec
50-70 - 9.9 sec
lane change - 58.1 mph
0-60 - 5.8 sec
0-100 - 14 sec
0-130 - 27.2 sec
quarter - 14.4 @ 101

ms3

skidpad - .87g
70-0 - 160 ft
5-60 - 6.7 sec
50-70 - 7.2 sec
lane change - 57.6 mph
0-60 - 5.6 sec
0-100 - 14.2 sec
0-130 - 27.4 sec
quarter - 14.2 @ 100




Looking at the test sheets, the ms3 won for obvious reasons. And the people here screaming about how much better the caliber is in a straight line, well, it's a driver's race period.

 

[tunersteve]

Guys, I posted these exact same links yesterday, go back a few pages and look. IMO this thread is getting a bit out of control, straying from the topic.

C&D test sheet scores:

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/14234/2007-mazdaspeed-3.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/14236/2008-dodge-caliber-srt4.html

srt-4

skidpad - .84g
70-0 - 176 ft
5-60 - 6.6 sec
50-70 - 9.9 sec
lane change - 58.1 mph
0-60 - 5.8 sec
0-100 - 14 sec
0-130 - 27.2 sec
quarter - 14.4 @ 101

ms3

skidpad - .87g
70-0 - 160 ft
5-60 - 6.7 sec
50-70 - 7.2 sec
lane change - 57.6 mph
0-60 - 5.6 sec
0-100 - 14.2 sec
0-130 - 27.4 sec
quarter - 14.2 @ 100




Looking at the test sheets, the ms3 won for obvious reasons. And the people here screaming about how much better the caliber is in a straight line, well, it's a driver's race period.

 

[laloosh]

or you can see what the car did in about 3 weeks after being out

http://www.dcrsrt.com/Video/Caliber%2012's%202%20of%202.wmv

 

[Betelgeuse]

Guys, I posted these exact same links yesterday, go back a few pages and look. IMO this thread is getting a bit out of control, straying from the topic.

Soooo... do you want a cookie? Or maybe a thankyou? This is the second time you repeated this. And why clutter the thread with the quote? I went a little further and made it easier for people to compare both cars. I'm not dissing your contribution.

 

[MS3Chik]

it trapped the highest and had the highest lane change mph

that was by 1. he could have spun a little bit more than the ms3 and that rasied the mph

 

[laloosh]

look at other reviews where bone stock the car ran 103 or 104mph, did they spin a lil 2?

 

[MS3Chik]

yea

 

[MS3Chik]

the more you spin the more mph you get

 

[laloosh]

look up my posts before u preach to me about drag racing lol
your not going to pick up 3-4mph because you spun

 

[MS3Chik]

i dont give a s*** what you post..i drag race also..if you knew that you wouldnt be posting about stupid mph gains

 

[laloosh]

i dont give a s*** what you post..i drag race also..if you knew that you wouldnt be posting about stupid mph gains

mph is what determins power, traction is what determins et

try again

stupid mph gains....lol

 

[MS3Chik]

your getting the mph up also with your rpms..race something faster than 11s then talk me

 

[tunersteve]

Soooo... do you want a cookie? Or maybe a thankyou? This is the second time you repeated this. And why clutter the thread with the quote? I went a little further and made it easier for people to compare both cars. I'm not dissing your contribution.

All I'm saying is people need to go and read through the thread...not continue to contribute things that we already know. This thread isn't really going anywhere, it's just turning into a "MS3 > Caliber" thread, where opinions are running rampid. To each his own I guess. Its just beginning to sound childish.

 

[laloosh]

lol at you thinking this is my only toy. Stop, your embarssing yourself.


explain to me how spinning gains 3-4mph on a stock car?

 

[MS3Chik]

like i said...when you race something faster than 11s