I mentioned this in the oil analysis thread, but at my 1st oil change I installed a Fumoto valve. It's going to make oil drains a whole lot cleaner going forward. I will open the valve, drain directly into an empty 5 qt container until full, then close the valve. I can even stop mid-way and catch a sample.Hardest part is cleanup and disposal. In other words, not hard.
That valve does not get all the oil out of the pan that would normally come out with the regular drain plug and is really not something you want to mess with as a point of failure.I mentioned this in the oil analysis thread, but at my 1st oil change I installed a Fumoto valve. It's going to make oil drains a whole lot cleaner going forward. I will open the valve, drain directly into an empty 5 qt container until full, then close the valve. I can even stop mid-way and catch a sample.
That has not been shown to be a problem.That valve does not get all the oil out of the pan that would normally come out with the regular drain plug and is really not something you want to mess with as a point of failure.
I did the same as N7 with the Fumoto valve. I lift the front end up a bit to make more room to work under there, The small bit the threads of the valve extend into the pan might keep 2 or 3 ounces of old oil in there over pulling the drain plug. I change the oil frequency enough (5-7000mi) with synthetic that I wish that little bit was enough to make it on my “things to worry about” list.That valve does not get all the oil out of the pan that would normally come out with the regular drain plug and is really not something you want to mess with as a point of failure.
that filter isn't anywhere close to having a restriction or bypass.View attachment 325765View attachment 325766took less than a minute to change the air filter ..
You do need something. People get creative.Don't you still need a pan for the oil filter? I have a Fumoto, but don't use jack or ramps, and I drain the oil into a pan.
I don't want to give them any reason to try...
That valve does not get all the oil out of the pan that would normally come out with the regular drain plug and is really not something you want to mess with as a point of failure.
I agree 100% I was surprised at how clean it is after 15000 miles and a fair amount of dirt roads. People say turbos need to be changed really often but my turbo must suck less than mostthat filter isn't anywhere close to having a restriction or bypass.
yup according to Mazda about a quart of used oil is left in the engine....The small amount of oil left in the pan from an incomplete draining cause by the valve isn't going to hurt anything. There's much more oil than that left in the engine elsewhere when the oil is changed.
That said, I don't like those valves myself and would never use one. It's not like it's hard to use an Allen wrench to remove the oil plug.
True, the valve saves time, no worries, I can wait the extra 3 mins.
Don't you still need a pan for the oil filter? I have a Fumoto, but don't use jack or ramps, and I drain the oil into a pan.
It's more the ease of (and time saving of) doing an oil change without any cleanup. Including skipping the oil catch pan.True, the valve saves time, no worries, I can wait the extra 3 mins.
It's more the ease of (and time saving of) doing an oil change without any cleanup. Including skipping the oil catch pan.
When those types of valves were introduced many years ago, they hung down much lower and there were many reports of them busting off or busting the cast oil pans due to reduced ground clearance. Oil pan designs have changed over the years and it looks like the current Fumoto design has improved as well.My friend swears by the Fumoto valve but I've been trying to convince myself of a reason to use it. Having the valve would make it easy to drain obviously. Both methods involve some type of mess. The valve probably provides a tidier stream of oil? I don't know. I think if I put more miles on my cars where I'm doing an oil change every 2-3 months then maybe it would be nice. I'm doing them maybe once every 5 months. I'm not dissing the Fumoto though. I think if you were doing a lot of changes they make sense.
Imagine holding an empty 5 qt jug up to the valve and flipping it open with the other. No catch pan and no splashes. Good luck replicating that with the standard pan bolt.My friend swears by the Fumoto valve but I've been trying to convince myself of a reason to use it. Having the valve would make it easy to drain obviously. Both methods involve some type of mess. The valve probably provides a tidier stream of oil? I don't know. I think if I put more miles on my cars where I'm doing an oil change every 2-3 months then maybe it would be nice. I'm doing them maybe once every 5 months. I'm not dissing the Fumoto though. I think if you were doing a lot of changes they make sense.
they going to keep arguing with you no matter how right you are .Imagine holding an empty 5 qt jug up to the valve and flipping it open with the other. No catch pan and no splashes. Good luck replicating that with the standard pan bolt.
Imagine holding an empty 5 qt jug up to the valve and flipping it open with the other. No catch pan and no splashes. Good luck replicating that with the standard pan bolt.