X1950xtx

[sephiroth]

I could give a poo becuase the Kentsfield (quad core basically dual Core 2) will be out soon and the AMD 4X4.
Shove the single Core 2 Duo. (shocked)

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but neither are going to shove conroe in anything but completly synthetic tests. If you can name more than 15 games in the past 3 years that are SMP cappable I'd be surprised.
AMD 4x4 is worse than kenstfield, and at beast a gimmic until AMD unleashes K8L, at least kentsfield is working on the ass-kickery that is the Core Duo 2 arch. 4X4 is still working on K8... which btw is currently getting it's ass handed to it(no fan-boyism here.. that's the facts). If you're going to wait for 4X4, then you might as well wait for AMD's real native quad core; K8L.

Dude no offense but a cheap-ass 7900GS would get ASSRAPED by this card.

Oh believe me I KNOW, thanks for reminding me.
but I do have a CD2 and 2GB of DDR800 @ 4-3-3-8 (peep)

 

[NoRotorNoMotor]

ok super pi 1M.. i go first

27 seconds on my E6300

 

[sephiroth]

ok super pi 1M.. i go first

27 seconds on my E6300

you should so overclock that.. you know you want to... that CD2 calls to you, it says "overclock me" when you're not looking. (peep)

here's mine.

14s

 

[atticus1398]

selling the 1900xtx? is it a crossfire? brand?

and Dibs if he's selling it, lol.(peep)

 

[gimpo2]

damn thats fast!

 

[NoRotorNoMotor]

;>_> you running that stock?

here's mine.

14s

well my mobo isn't the greatest because i need something to make the transition from DDR and agp so i bought an asrock which supprts both DDR/DDR2 and PCI-E/AGP so i can upgrade a little at a time

right now i am at 295x7=2065.7mhz so it is slightly overclocked

i cant go any higher or the pc woot boot, but i am sure it is a voltage problem. i have pc5300 ram so it isnt even close to it's rated speed yet

i am not sure if i can raise the vcore on the mobo yet as i havent really looked at it

 

[sephiroth]

well my mobo isn't the greatest because i need something to make the transition from DDR and agp so i bought an asrock which supprts both DDR/DDR2 and PCI-E/AGP so i can upgrade a little at a time

right now i am at 295x7=2065.7mhz so it is slightly overclocked

i cant go any higher or the pc woot boot, but i am sure it is a voltage problem. i have pc5300 ram so it isnt even close to it's rated speed yet

sounds like you're working with what you got, which is cool.

i am not sure if i can raise the vcore on the mobo yet as i havent really looked at it

should be able to at least a little bit, lots of those transistion asrock boards have voltage adjustments, if anything for the ram at least.

 

[atticus1398]

ok super pi 1M.. i go first

27 seconds on my E6300

im still watercooling an XP2500 @ 2.4gz. And still rockin the Abit NF-7s, and agp x850 platinum. But I also just got an XPS Lappy which does SuperPi 1mil in 29secs. That sucks.
Effing brand new.
T2500
2 gigs
7900gtx

Im usually an AMD and ATI guy. Next desktop will be socket AM2
ATI 3200 xfire NBrige
Crossfire x1900s, hows that work anyway? cable needed?

 

[sephiroth]

im still watercooling an XP2500 @ 2.4gz. And still rockin the Abit NF-7s, and agp x850 platinum. But I also just got an XPS Lappy which does SuperPi 1mil in 29secs. That sucks.
Effing brand new.
T2500
2 gigs
7900gtx

the good thing is that you can just pop a Core Duo 2 merom in there whenever you like. The CD2 XPS and CD1 XPS laptops are the same.

Crossfire x1900s, hows that work anyway? cable needed

all you need is a board with two PCI-E 16X slots, and a master and slave X1900 or X1800 card(the two cards are connected via a DVI cable type thing on the outside of the computer). RD600 is supposed to do away with the master and slave thing though. Crossfire works on the same rendering principals that SLi does, in that each card renders half the image on screen, or in the case of AFR (alternate rendering mode) both cards render only every other image, for example, card 1 would render frames 1,3,5 and 7, while card 2 would render frames 2,4,6 and 8..

 

[atticus1398]

thnx, man

i meant 3200SB
and RD6800

Just waiting on the DFI AM2 Crossfie board to release

 

[yashooa]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but neither are going to shove conroe in anything but completly synthetic tests. If you can name more than 15 games in the past 3 years that are SMP cappable I'd be surprised.
AMD 4x4 is worse than kenstfield, and at beast a gimmic until AMD unleashes K8L, at least kentsfield is working on the ass-kickery that is the Core Duo 2 arch. 4X4 is still working on K8... which btw is currently getting it's ass handed to it(no fan-boyism here.. that's the facts). If you're going to wait for 4X4, then you might as well wait for AMD's real native quad core; K8L.

Oh believe me I KNOW, thanks for reminding me.
but I do have a CD2 and 2GB of DDR800 @ 4-3-3-8 (peep)

Dear squishysmooch, there are other apps besides games and in those apps the Quadcore does quite nicely.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/10/four_cores_on_the_rampage/

If you are into rendering or content creation the Kentsfield will annilhilate the C2D. So please go back to your bong and ho-hos.
"The future belongs to HD content. If we take our benchmarks into consideration you can no longer get by without a quad-core processor. Test results with the software packages Main Concept with H.264 encoding and the WMV-HD conversion make this very clear. We noticed performance jumps of up to 80% when compared to the Core 2 Duo at the same clock speed (2.66 GHz). A Core 2 Quadro at 2.66 GHz and higher is the answer for HD video (editing and rendering) at full HD resolution (1920x1080)."

Look at those crazy increases. So if you want to just play games don't buy one but if you work in 3D-design visualization then Quad core is the way.

<table id="nointelliTXT" class="content_table_wide"> <tbody><tr><th>s</th> <th>Programs</th> <th>Performance
Core 2 Quadro vs. Core 2 Duo</th> </tr> <tr class="light"> <td>3D rendering</td> <td>3D Studio Max 8.0</td> <td>100%</td> </tr> <tr class="dark"> <td>video editing</td> <td>Adobe Premiere Pro 2.0</td> <td>80%</td> </tr> <tr class="light"> <td>HD video encoding</td> <td>Main Concept H.264</td> <td>70%</td> </tr> <tr class="dark"> <td>video encoding</td> <td>Windows Media Encoder 9</td> <td>63%</td> </tr> <tr class="light"> <td>video encoding</td> <td>DivX 6.2</td> <td>27%</td> </tr> <tr class="dark"> <td>image editing</td> <td>Adobe Photoshop CS2</td> <td>24%</td> </tr> <tr class="light"> <td>file compression</td> <td>WinRAR 3.6</td> <td>10%</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>

 

[atticus1398]

the good thing is that you can just pop a Core Duo 2 merom in there whenever you like. The CD2 XPS and CD1 XPS laptops are the same.

Ahh, I didnt think the socket was the same for the meron. This is graet news! Thanks, man.

 

[atticus1398]

Hey Yashooa, please let me know the next time you "come across" an x1900 or x1950 plz(first)

 

[sephiroth]

Dear shitbrain, there are other apps besides games and in those apps the Quadcore does quite nicely.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/...n_the_rampage/

If you are into rendering or content creation the Kentsfield will annilhilate the C2D. So please go back to your bong and ho-hos.

I thought the gains were going to be less than that because of kentfield's slow CMD bus and data FSB.. but I guess not. If kentsfield can get away with those numbers with it's cramped CMD bus then I can't even imagine what K8L is going to turn out.

 

[yashooa]

I thought the gains were going to be less than that because of kentfield's slow CMD bus and data FSB.. but I guess not. If kentsfield can get away with those numbers with it's cramped CMD bus then I can't even imagine what K8L is going to turn out.

Man, I love you dude... I here by resend my foul comment.
Yes your C2D is badass and I wish I had one but I really need to wait before I buy some more procs. We use these cards (mostly) in Dell 490 workstations they save us 1400.00$ per workstation over a 7900GTX based Quadro 4500FX or a X1900 based FireGL card.
We will be evaluating the X2 based 740 and CD2 based 745 Optiplexs next month. We don't have to have the fatest processor for these plain CAD boxes provided that the X2 can be 95% as fast and save 100$ per box.
We have to go bang for buck and 100 per box can save us around $10,000 per year.

 

[yashart@work]

Where do you work that you need such high end graphic cards?

I work for ATI

 

[atticus1398]

drooling now....thanks

By the way, whats up with ATI NEVER meeting release dates. I've been putting off building a crossfire desktop, because I'm waiting on the RD600 NB/ 3200SB socket AM2 boards to come out. MSI and Asus have released theres, buy I'm holding out for DFIs. Hmmm, got any reference boards laying around? The purdy white and red ones.

 

[yashart@work]

drooling now....thanks

By the way, whats up with ATI NEVER meeting release dates. I've been putting off building a crossfire desktop, because I'm waiting on the RD600 NB/ 3200SB socket AM2 boards to come out. MSI and Asus have released theres, buy I'm holding out for DFIs. Hmmm, got any reference boards laying around? The purdy white and red ones.

I'm at work, so im scared to post much of anything. There's alot I would love to tell you guys, especially about AMD purchasing us.... but I simply can't.

As for reference boards, we have several laying around, but not too much I can tell ya about them

 

[atticus1398]

how big is your lunchbox? j/k

 

[yashooa]

Where do you work that you need such high end graphic cards?

I work for ATI

I knew it! LOL
That's why I said, if you work for ATI you can roll around in these things naked."
Man we do all kinds of things from floodplain modeling of an entire state to showing what your building will look like with some bigass microwave antenna's on it.
We build everything, and I mean EVERYTHING.