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will an fmic void our warranty??
- Thread starter MackDadam
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it should void anything that is in direct connection both before and (especially) after... if your turbo goes to s**** they are going to say (correctly) that you can't prove that it wasn't because of a malfunction of the FMIC...
it depends on the service reps and managers that you're dealing with but they'd have ample grounds to deny you service on most anything in the engine bay. sorry...
it depends on the service reps and managers that you're dealing with but they'd have ample grounds to deny you service on most anything in the engine bay. sorry...
MackDadam said:what...? i get along alright with andy... but i can see his face now and the smirk he will give as he tells me "let me check into that but im sure it will.." this car hesitates worse than ever. first gear is a mother
i get nothing but problems everytime i got to that dealeship in any capacity. i went their to get my shift knob replaced due to the leather comming loose and he was giving me s*** about it at first. he could of been having a bad day or something, i dunno.
damn, i think im the only one left with a good sparco knob, i dont wanna have to b**** about that. he knows me by name though, usually ill go in there with tsbs and he does them. brake hubs, flash, etc. im going to ask for it in writing if he tells me it will.
there is no way this would harm the engine, if anything it would help it.
there is no way this would harm the engine, if anything it would help it.
What TSB did you use for the brake hubs?MackDadam said:damn, i think im the only one left with a good sparco knob, i dont wanna have to b**** about that. he knows me by name though, usually ill go in there with tsbs and he does them. brake hubs, flash, etc. im going to ask for it in writing if he tells me it will.
there is no way this would harm the engine, if anything it would help it.
DigitalHeadShot
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- 05 EVO "MR", 04 mazda3
its funny how my mazda dealship works.. they seem to want to work on warrenty stuff.. from what a friend says that works there, there dealship gets money from mazda if they do warrenty work. There ALWAYS more than happy to replace something in the warrenty world. I took my car in to have them look at my blown sub and they were like lets just get new panels, my silver lineing had a couple of scraps and what not. Then they just started pointing out few other goodies..
I have never been so confused in my life.
like I said they seem to like to work on warrenty stuff. Its weird I know (confused)
I have never been so confused in my life.
like I said they seem to like to work on warrenty stuff. Its weird I know (confused)
LAZERBLU2003.5
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my dealership told me that it don't void the warranty if it is a part specifically for the mazdaspeed, and you let the dealer install it on your car.
Let 1,000 people post saying different but I still say YES it will for all intensive purposes - unless you are going to play games with the dealer and remove everything for every visit which at that point is more work than it's worth.
Maybe in a court of law you can win a battle if it comes to that but that would require the following:
car being broken in some way sitting at mazda or in your driveway for months
lawyer being paid
lots of time and effort
Maybe in a court of law you can win a battle if it comes to that but that would require the following:
car being broken in some way sitting at mazda or in your driveway for months
lawyer being paid
lots of time and effort
DigitalHeadShot
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- 05 EVO "MR", 04 mazda3
from what I have learned with my lancer evo VIII and warrenty work on other boards is most car dealerships wont do any work to a modded car.. however for them to say no to any warrenty work they HAVE to prove the after market part in question directly toasted whatever your fixing.
This brings up a whole new playing feild because yes they have to prove how and why but you also have to prove why your, say intercooler didnt blow up the turbo.. its going to be a good fight. I think mitsu is really really lazy and they try to say something like an exhaust will void warrenty on a shift knob. *something stupid like that. So really if you go in and know the facts and slap them with why it wont void then you stand a better chance.
so far mazda has been a champ to me on warrenty work I have had ZERO problems with my speed getting work, check post above for details.
Also my lancer is stock except for my air filter and I havent had any problems with the car at all so I dont really know first hand but I know ALOT of people that do have problems and mitsu will stick them everytime.
so just a heads up, if you go in with a new intercooler you better be rdy to fight, and have your facts rdy.
cheers.
This brings up a whole new playing feild because yes they have to prove how and why but you also have to prove why your, say intercooler didnt blow up the turbo.. its going to be a good fight. I think mitsu is really really lazy and they try to say something like an exhaust will void warrenty on a shift knob. *something stupid like that. So really if you go in and know the facts and slap them with why it wont void then you stand a better chance.
so far mazda has been a champ to me on warrenty work I have had ZERO problems with my speed getting work, check post above for details.
Also my lancer is stock except for my air filter and I havent had any problems with the car at all so I dont really know first hand but I know ALOT of people that do have problems and mitsu will stick them everytime.
so just a heads up, if you go in with a new intercooler you better be rdy to fight, and have your facts rdy.
cheers.
DigitalHeadShot
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- 05 EVO "MR", 04 mazda3
LAZERBLU2003.5 said:my dealership told me that it don't void the warranty if it is a part specifically for the mazdaspeed, and you let the dealer install it on your car.
that is true in a sence but where there going to get you is.... does the part say made by mazda. I would go back in say hey if I get say the hiboost or iON performance FMIC *made for the mazdaspeed only* will it void the warrenty? If they say no I will be shocked and you better get it in writting.
I had a buddy ask the say question to mitsu and they said sure it wont void the warrenty... just like your saying, so he bought a fujisubo exhaust (you know a real nice top of the line pipe made only for the evo VIII) then later he had drive train problems and they voided his warrenty because some how they figured the exhuast freeing up hp put to much stress on the cars tranny ect.. (I know total BS)
so long story short GET IT IN WRITTING!!! *trust me* plus its better to be safe than sorry.
Guys and Gals, tell you what Im going into the mazda dealship to have some work done to my wifes miata, I will ask them about it.
keep you posted.
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DigitalHeadShot
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- 05 EVO "MR", 04 mazda3
well I talked with the service manager at local mazda in nc and was told that if you buy any aftermarket part what so ever it will most likely void warrenty. For example if you buy an intercooler and go in for engine trouble there going to void out the warrenty, most likely. He aslo admitted its up to the service department. He said very clearly that the mazdaspeed wont blow up under normal conditions and if your upping the juice and blow it up its your fault.
To answer questions above. if a part is made by mazda will it void the warrenty? Yes and no. Yes a part made and installed by mazda will be under warrenty. EVEN still if you buy say a fmic made by mazda (if there is such a thing lol) and you still blow your turbo there is a good chance you WONT get warrenty work. Thats shocking and hard to grasp it made my jaw drop. I was told that most likey with the new intercooler you will be stressing the car to much etc read on and you will see how they void such a thing.
Service manager said yes we do have to prove that the part did affect directly to the problem. For example if you go in with a blown turbo and you have an aftermarket exhuast. Mazda has to prove that the exhuast driectly caused the malfunction of the trubo. That is going to be hard for them to prove. HOWEVER here is the kicker 9 out of 10 times mazda will win. Why you ask? Well that is simple, they will hit you with the grounds of abusive driveing. Thats there key to fights, there upper hand if you will.
Basicly what I was told is if you put after market on a car there is a 99% chance it void the good ol warrenty. He also said yes it is up to the mazda dealership you take it to aswell.
So you can see in that little paragraph above the arguement that you will have.. So if you put aftermarket and go in to have something worked on then you better have a good fight rdy. Because there going to try and say no to warrenty work.
also the reason they like to do small things such as fix the center piece or busted shift knob is they can charge corp mazda a crap load for the part and put it on in like two seconds (you do have to let them install it) They make alot of money on that. The reason they dont like to fix blown turbos or drivetrains is well it takes time and labor. They end up spending more time fixing the trubo and drivetrain then they can charge mazda for. (at least thats how I took it).
Anyways I hope that helps.
pieces
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To answer questions above. if a part is made by mazda will it void the warrenty? Yes and no. Yes a part made and installed by mazda will be under warrenty. EVEN still if you buy say a fmic made by mazda (if there is such a thing lol) and you still blow your turbo there is a good chance you WONT get warrenty work. Thats shocking and hard to grasp it made my jaw drop. I was told that most likey with the new intercooler you will be stressing the car to much etc read on and you will see how they void such a thing.
Service manager said yes we do have to prove that the part did affect directly to the problem. For example if you go in with a blown turbo and you have an aftermarket exhuast. Mazda has to prove that the exhuast driectly caused the malfunction of the trubo. That is going to be hard for them to prove. HOWEVER here is the kicker 9 out of 10 times mazda will win. Why you ask? Well that is simple, they will hit you with the grounds of abusive driveing. Thats there key to fights, there upper hand if you will.
Basicly what I was told is if you put after market on a car there is a 99% chance it void the good ol warrenty. He also said yes it is up to the mazda dealership you take it to aswell.
So you can see in that little paragraph above the arguement that you will have.. So if you put aftermarket and go in to have something worked on then you better have a good fight rdy. Because there going to try and say no to warrenty work.
also the reason they like to do small things such as fix the center piece or busted shift knob is they can charge corp mazda a crap load for the part and put it on in like two seconds (you do have to let them install it) They make alot of money on that. The reason they dont like to fix blown turbos or drivetrains is well it takes time and labor. They end up spending more time fixing the trubo and drivetrain then they can charge mazda for. (at least thats how I took it).
Anyways I hope that helps.
pieces
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