Turbohoses SMIC Results

[Turbohoses]

Thank you for your patience.

Our test vehicle is completely stock and tested with our Aluminum Piping and stock boost.

The end results are as follows:


We were only able to run our test vehicle 4 times for each IC. We noticed by the third run the engine began to detonate, we believe this is partially due to the operating temp.

Baseline:

1.Turbohoses IC= 158.3hp/169.1ft. lbs tq.
OEM IC= 142.7/159 ft. lbs. tq.

Gain of 15.6 hp.

2. Turbohoses IC= 157hp/167.1 ft. lbs. tq.
OEM IC= 142.4/158.1 ft.lbs. tq.

-Break 2 minutes before next run on Turbohoses IC-

3. Turbohoses IC= 158.5hp/169.1 ft. lbs. tq

_Break 5 minutes before running OEM IC-

OEM IC= 140.7hp/ 152.9 ft. lbs. tq.

4. Turbohoses IC= 154.6hp/162.4 ft. lbs. tq.
OEM IC= 138.7hp/150.2ft. lbs. tq.

Note:

Turbohoses Ambient Air temp.= 87 deg.
OEM Ambient Air temp.= 83.5 deg.

Dynoing with the OEM IC resulted in hesitation on WOT.
OEM Intercooler Pipes: Unable to complete dyno run due to engine hesitation at WOT.

We also took a temperature reading comparing aluminum vs. steel piping using the stock IC.
Aluminum- 100-108dg. f.
Steel- 135-142 dg.f.

Thank you,

Turbohoses R&D

 

[kazson]

nice numbers indeed pretty impressive

and goes to show how much our stock IC sucks

 

[jurgs01]

Good info. How does the IC fit? The only person with Circuit Sports SMIC said they had rubbing problems due to the way it fit. So I'm guessing you have decided to go on with production. Hopefully this is quickly followed by a GB, if so you have one on this list if reasonably priced. Thanks for putting up the results.

 

[mspeed101]

How come the msp dynoed so low stock? By the way great numbers

 

[jurgs01]

How come the msp dynoed so low stock? By the way great numbers

It always does. The 170 HP put out when you bought it was crank HP (and a generous estimate). The decent stock supension, gear ratios and the fact that it's so light are what make it a fast car. Imagine what the car feel like with those guys putting down 250-300 HP. Must be fun.

 

[mspeed101]

It always does. The 170 HP put out when you bought it was crank HP (and a generous estimate). The decent stock supension, gear ratios and the fact that it's so light are what make it a fast car. Imagine what the car feel like with those guys putting down 250-300 HP. Must be fun.

I usually see them dynoing at around the 150-160whp range stock thats why I was wondering

 

[Spooled]

Detonaation in stock form? Sounds weird.

Also, that's a big difference in ambient temps. Were they run on the same day? The 6.5 degree difference (along with whatever humidity change) could account for a lot of the power gain. I'd really like to see either corrected numbers, or tests done in the exact same conditions.

 

[Turbohoses]

Fitament

Good info. How does the IC fit? The only person with Circuit Sports SMIC said they had rubbing problems due to the way it fit. So I'm guessing you have decided to go on with production. Hopefully this is quickly followed by a GB, if so you have one on this list if reasonably priced. Thanks for putting up the results.

The fitament is good. There are no rubbing issues.
However, we are at a crossing point.

1. The factory fan has one bolt that mount to the OEM IC. We can and have made a proto-type that fits all of the bolts, however it is extremely time consuming. We would have to add an additional 100.00 to the IC to retain that single bolt.

2. We are going to do one slight adjustment to the geometry of our system, which should result in 1-2 more hp on the top end.

Let us know, if the market will accept the one bolt missing and we'll take it from there.

Thank you,

Turbohoses R&D

 

[Turbohoses]

Hp Rating

I usually see them dynoing at around the 150-160whp range stock thats why I was wondering

150-160 is quite possible.
The ambient air temp. will make a difference and drop hp very quickly.

Hope this helps.

Turbohoses R&D

 

[Turbohoses]

Tests

Detonaation in stock form? Sounds weird.

Also, that's a big difference in ambient temps. Were they run on the same day? The 6.5 degree difference (along with whatever humidity change) could account for a lot of the power gain. I'd really like to see either corrected numbers, or tests done in the exact same conditions.

Tests were done witin the same hour.
Yes, the OEM IC was given a slight handicap due to the time it took us to change intercoolers.

Turbohoses R&D

 

[Turbohoses]

Thanks

Detonaation in stock form? Sounds weird.

Also, that's a big difference in ambient temps. Were they run on the same day? The 6.5 degree difference (along with whatever humidity change) could account for a lot of the power gain. I'd really like to see either corrected numbers, or tests done in the exact same conditions.

Thanks for catching that.
I typed a little too fast...
the correct temperature is 83.5.

Thanks again,

Turbohoses R&D

 

[mspeed101]

Is there a price on this yet?

 

[wicked]

This goes to show why good quility products cost what they do.turbohoses has spent A lot of time and money to have these perform the way that they do.they are not just some cheap crap built in a garage.
I have seen this product in person,can read these results,and I know how much has been put into getting this perfect.this takes the car one step closer to how it should have come from the factory.this is a must have for anyone who drives thier car,and plans on having it for awhile.

by the way these numbers were pulled using a dynojet.

sorry jurgs01 no GB.
but I can't say what ********** may do,thats up to him.
and as far as fitment goes,just go to http://www.turbohoses.com/MSP.htm<!-- / sig -->
and look at the pics.It was designed identical to the factory EXEPT
all alluminum
3.5 inch core(compared to factory 3 inch)
bar and plate
channel size has been increased by 50%
and hand made

for those of you still interested in cheap pipes tubohoses has a thread here now offering them.

 

[Artur1976]

when will this smic be ready for shipping? And price estimate.

 

[jurgs01]

The fitament is good. There are no rubbing issues.
However, we are at a crossing point.

1. The factory fan has one bolt that mount to the OEM IC. We can and have made a proto-type that fits all of the bolts, however it is extremely time consuming. We would have to add an additional 100.00 to the IC to retain that single bolt.

2. We are going to do one slight adjustment to the geometry of our system, which should result in 1-2 more hp on the top end.

Let us know, if the market will accept the one bolt missing and we'll take it from there.

Thank you,

Turbohoses R&D

For $100 you can leave the bolt off. Is the fan sturdy without it? I will have to go look at it tomorrow, but as long as it is sturdy and doesn't thrash around it shouldn't be a problem. Why a hundred dollars to drill and tap a hole?

 

[wicked]

Detonaation in stock form? Sounds weird.

Also, that's a big difference in ambient temps. Were they run on the same day? The 6.5 degree difference (along with whatever humidity change) could account for a lot of the power gain. I'd really like to see either corrected numbers, or tests done in the exact same conditions.

if you look at the conditions he gave the factory a handicap.cooler air is denser creating more power.he ran his hotter,whitch if any thing hurt his total.in other words if the temps were the same his would have gained even more,and he would have been detonating a lot more with factory.

 

[slyydrr]

it sounds VERY interesting... i want a FMIC, but this sounds quite affordable... im interested in this SMIC... any price ranges?

 

[slyydrr]

btw, for those looking, the CORRECT, WORKING link is www.turbohoses.com/MSP.htm

 

[wicked]

AIKEN,
Read the rest of the thread before posting please.I don't mean to be rude or anything but I just posted the link a few minutes ago at the age of page 1
thanks for trying to help though=)

 

[Turbohoses]

For $100 you can leave the bolt off. Is the fan sturdy without it? I will have to go look at it tomorrow, but as long as it is sturdy and doesn't thrash around it shouldn't be a problem. Why a hundred dollars to drill and tap a hole?

It's not as simple as just drill and tap.
The end tank must be recessed at that point to allow for the fans mounting point to have a place to sit. Remember, the core is thicker.

Thanks,

Turbohoses R&D